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John, You beat me to the punch. I was going to say/write the same thing. Moreover, to be technically correct... Bibiana (whichever one) is the patron saint against hangovers.
:-))
MG
Marjorie Greene
http://medrelart.shutterfly.com/
--- On Fri, 12/3/10, John Dillon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: John Dillon <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 2. December
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Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 1:39 AM
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Dear George,
Why "surely"? As far as I am aware, the Bibiana specially venerated by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles is a catacomb saint whose remains were discovered in 1853 and who was equivalently canonized under the name form Vibiana either late in 1853 or early in 1854. See this from the Archdiocese:
http://www.la-archdiocese.org/about/heritage/vibiana.html
Although this saint's name and her localization are the same as those of today's Bibiana, the very fact that she was canonized makes her unlikely to be officially regarded as identical to an ancient martyr accorded a _cultus ab immemorabili tempore_ and thus canonically in no need of papal canonization.
The Bibiana/Vibiana venerated in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles is a saint of the day of 1. September. See the Archdiocese's liturgical calendar:
http://www.archdiocese.la/gospel/calendar/index.php
According to the unofficial account here (you'll have to scroll down a bit),
http://www.cathedralsofcalifornia.com/?tag=st-vibiana
this Vibiana's feast is celebrated only in Los Angeles.
The Bibiana of 2. December, on the other hand, is still celebrated both at her church in Rome and in several other Italian dioceses.
I'll take your word for it that today's Bibiana is a patron of drunks -- at least in popular perception. _In bino beritas_ and all that.
Best again,
John Dillon
On Thursday, December 2, 2010, at 6:10 pm, George Brown wrote:
> John,
>
> Surely mention should be made (and a connection inferred from the
> fact?) that St. Bibiana is patroness of the archdiocese of Los
> Angeles and patron saint of drunks (bibiamo!).
>
> GHB
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2010, at 1:30 PM, John Dillon wrote:
>
> >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
> >
> >Today (2. December) is the feast day of:
> >
> >1) Bibiana (?). B. is a very poorly attested martyr of Rome, first
> recorded in the _Liber Pontificalis_ where we are told that pope St.
> Simplicius (468-83) dedicated a basilica to her near the Licinian
> palace. She has a legendary Passio in differing versions (BHL
> 1322-1323) that makes her a martyr under Julian the Apostate (for
> western saints, a good indicator of fiction). Her basilica was
> rebuilt in the thirteenth century by Honorius III and was reworked,
> largely on the same plan, by Bernini in 1624-26. Herewith a view of
> the interior, showing ancient Roman columns said to have belonged to
> the fifth-century church:
> >http://tinyurl.com/24bde9
> >Marjorie Greene has another view of some of the ancient columns in
> Santa Bibiana in her medrelart album on this church:
> >http://medrelart.shutterfly.com/activityfeed/85
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