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From: [log in to unmask] href="http://uk.mg.bt.mail.yahoo.com/dc/mailto:%25e%25" rel=nofollow target=_blank>CRAIG NEWNES

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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 5:00 PM

Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Off line and academic identity issues and DSM

In 1953 DSMI had 112 diagnoses. DSMV is predicted to have 500+ This gives us all the chance to be diagnosed. Finally a world community recognisably mad. In fact, anyone without a label will be so odd as to be deemed insanely normal. Foucault would have loved this - if abnormality is defined in order to, by default, define a desired normality, what does it mean when the vast minority are so normal as to be seen as odd? And as for Richard's point about professional psychologists' leadership in all this - what was it Bernard Shaw said?

Craig

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From: Erica Brostoff <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, 2 December, 2010 13:57:48
Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Off line and academic identity issues

Richard et al,
It should not be necessary to post people off line, as I have "hinted" at before!    An academic correspondent of mine not on this list, replied to this information about Wiltshire educational psychology posts, that it was not as drastic as reported.  Surely, a similar simple response on the list is possible, and I am glad Richard has reported that he has been approached in this way.  Although not intended as such perhaps, it comes across as a form of censorship, and, again, off list others cannot learn from slips, errors, misreporting, wild statements, and so forth if it is hidden.  We can all be prone to error, apart from anything else because we cannot check everything, there is not time.  (The "F" name may apply)

I have been hesitating mentioning a conference last weekend, with relevance to DSM classifications, at which the keynote speaker was probably Dr. Daniel Siegal from UCLA, by videolink (to be green)talking on a conceptual schema linking virtually all the categories of the present DSM into a much simpler system and proposing remedies for individuals with neurological imbalances, to boot.  I would be grateful NOT to receive comments on the use of the word imbalances, or these concepts, which are sure to upset someone on the list.  His books are available and also talks on line, and he is the person to complain to, if complaints are merited.

I write now, because he made the same point about academia, which he is trying to remedy by having multidisciplinary teams working on specific projects, which should, in principle, allow all to contribute according to their specialty.  He said that the closer in content are academic disciplines, the greater the psychological distance they wish to keep.  I am not sure how this can be usefully applied here, but Richard might like to contact him, possibly.  It suggests that the value of talking between specialties can be encouraged without losing  carefully-guarded existing identities.  It was an encouraging talk in a day of encouraging talks entitled Brain Mapping run by Confer in London.

Erica

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