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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Henk, My typo, Zandlooper, as Dr. Bugslag indicates, is what he¹s looking for...the one with the double o does seem to be in Belgium... Judith On 11/22/10 1:36 PM, "Henk" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > A zandloper¹ (lit. sandrunner) is an hourglass. So not an area in Belgium. > The hourglass, according to Van der Linden, De Heiligen (the Saints), p 1074 > is the attribute of Hieronymus of Bethlehem or of Philiipus Benitius. But in > heraldry it stands for the passing of time, eternity, or death (especially > when winged). This work has no hourglasses or other life-death symbols > connected to St Monica. > > Henk > > > Van: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Namens Dr Jim Bugslag > Verzonden: maandag 22 november 2010 18:43 > Aan: [log in to unmask] > Onderwerp: Re: [M-R] FW: Essex reliquary: Long hair and spikenard? > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > Genevra, > I had occasion recently to consider this question in terms of the monumental > tomb brass of the twice-married Joan, Lady Cromwell (d.1479) in Holy Trinity > Church, Tattershall. The brass was probably commissioned after her death, > probably c.1490, and she is represented with long, flowing hair, uncovered but > with a floral band around her head. After two marriages, I think we can be > pretty sure that she was no longer a virgin, but I could not say whether some > flattering allusion to that state was intended. The problem with such > iconographic questions is that Emile Male was dead wrong when he wrote about > medieval artists being constrained by iron-clad laws of representation. I'm > currently trying to figure out, for example, why a mid-17th century image of > St Monica would have her carrying two shields, one carrying the Name of Jesus, > IHS, the other "een zandlooper", whatever that is (can any of our Dutch > colleagues hazard a guess at that?). These do not appear to be "standard" > attributes of St Monica. > Cheers, > Jim > > > On 22/11/2010 10:57 AM, Genevra Kornbluth wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture The > issue is not one of verisimilitude, but one of iconographic significance. In > western medieval art, long flowing hair (uncovered) normally identifies a > saint as a virgin or penitent. Covered hair designates a married woman > (whether to a regular man or to Christ). Hair styled in other ways-- in a bun, > braids, etc.-- may well follow contemporary fashion. In any case, the > conventions relating to hair are specific to particular times and places. A > Bulgarian icon, especially one as late as the one in the link appears to be, > follows the conventions of a different tradition. > The question about the Essex reliquary amulet would be, did long unbound and > uncovered hair retain its medieval significance in this sixteenth-century > work? Do specific images from the fifteenth or sixteenth century demonstrate a > shift of meaning? > Best, > Genevra > > On 11/22/2010 11:33 AM, Marjorie Greene wrote: > > Here: > http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_of_Constantinople > she's uncrowned, holding a big cross, but hair is not flowing (left) and > crowned, flowing hair, holding a somewhat stylized cross (right). > I suspect that the hair thing has to do more with ladies' hair styles of the > time of the creation of the image than with any attempt at verisimilitude. > MG > > > ********************************************************************** To join > the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave > medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or > to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our > web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > ********************************************************************** To join > the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave > medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or > to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our > web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > ********************************************************************** To join > the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave > medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or > to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our > web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html