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Confermo che dalle mie parti (entroterra veneziano: dolo, mirano) si dice
pituffarsi 'darsele', ecc.
saluti, matteo
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>In padovano-vicentino diciamo 'pituffarsi', con lo stesso significato del
friulano qui sotto; Cesare Musatti era di Dolo, al confine fra le province di
padova e venezia - ritengo quindi che questi siano i significati della sua
'italianizzazione' in 'pattuffarsi'.
>Il Vocabolarietto Veneto Giuliano (1922)[http://www.archive.
org/details/vocabolariettove00rosmuoft] registra le seguenti voci: patufarse,
petufarse bisticciarsi,aggattigliarsi.
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>Buon lavoro
>Emanuela
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>italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
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>Salve,
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> non so come sia nei dialetti italiani, ma in friulano c'è il verbo:
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>patufâsi
>accapigliarsi, azzuffarsi, battibeccare, contendere, venire alle mani
>http://www.cfl2000.net/index.php?loadpage=section&id=68
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> Essendo Musatti veneto, immagino che ci sarà il verbo corrispondente
anche in veneto e che sia trapelato nell'italiano regionale.
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> Buon lavoro, Giorgio Cadorini
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>Il giorno 08/nov/2010, alle ore 16.25, Luigi Fontanella ha scritto:
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>italian-studies: Scholarly discussions in any field of Italian studies
>Cari colleghi,
>spero che qualcuno di voi possa illuminarmi sul significato di un verbo, nel
quale mi sono imbattuto nel corso di una mia ricerca finalizzata a un mio
scritto (al quale sto tuttora lavorando). Il verbo in questione e' PATTUFFARSI
. Compare in uno dei saggi di Freud legati all'estetica ("Gradiva" del 1906)
tradotto in italiano da Cesare Musatti (Ed. Boringhieri, 1977, p. 36). La
frase in cui compare tale verbo e' la seguente: "... quando andavamo in giro
insieme da buoni amici, e anche per cambiare ci bisticciavamo e ci pattuffavamo
...". Non sono riuscito a trovare questo verbo in tutti i dizionari in mio
possesso, compreso il Battaglia. Il contesto della frase mi fa pensare a un
significato come "prendersi in giro" o "leticare", ecc. ecc. C'e' qualche
studioso che puo' illuminarmi? Ringrazio e non manchero' di esprimere la mia
riconoscenza (e "acknowledgment") nel mio scritto.
>Luigi Fontanella
>State University of New York, Stony Brook
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