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Thank you so much for your reply Steve

And as I will do between group comparisons and no *paired* (I guess I dind't wrote it clearly in the past) I won't add the EV per subject to model out the subject means.

Bests



El 25/11/10, Stephen Smith  <[log in to unmask]> escribió:
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> On 24 Nov 2010, at 10:14, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
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> > Thanks Stephen
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> > just to be sure, I've run a one-way ANOVA for this design with 3 contrasts and one F:
> > c1: 1 0 0 [and zeros for covs]
> > c2: 0 1 0 [and zeros for covs]
> > c3: 0 0 1 [and zeros for covs]
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> http://fsl.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/fsl/feat5/detail.html#ANOVA1factor4levels (http://fsl.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/fsl/feat5/detail.html#ANOVA1factor4levels)
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> > is it correct? for meassuring any difference on the 3 groups???
> > and if a would perform paired differences, would be:
> > 1 -1 0  [and zeros for covs]
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> Sure - though if you really mean *paired* differences then presumably you also need one EV per subject to model out the subject means - again see the various FEAT examples….
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> > El 24/11/10, Stephen Smith  <[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>> escribió:
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> > > Hi - in general you should demean the additional covariates, including the sex.
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> > > On 23 Nov 2010, at 15:44, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
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> > > > I've introduce a regressor of no interest de-meaned but i have another one the sex wich has not been de-meaned
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> > > > Group  EV1     EV2     EV3     EV4     EV5     EV6     EV7     EV8     EV9
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> > > > 1          1          0          0          1.5       0          0          1          0          0
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> > > > 1          1          0          0          -6.4     0          0          1          0          0
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> > > > 1          1          0          0          2.8       0          0          2          0          0
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> > > > 1          1          0          0          -6.4     0          0          2          0          0          
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> > > > 2          0          1          0          0          1.4       0          0          2          0          
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> > > > 2          0          1          0          0          1.3       0          0          1          0          
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> > > > 2          0          1          0          0          -1.7     0          0          1          0          
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> > > > 2          0          1          0          0          1.4       0          0          2          0
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> > > > 3          0          0          1          0          0          -6.4     0          0          1          
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> > > > 3          0          0          1          0          0          1.2       0          0          2          
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> > > > 3          0          0          1          0          0          -1.6     0          0          1          
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> > > > 3          0          0          1          0          0          -2.4     0          0          2
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> > > > This is an example of the design matrix, I have 3 groups and I'd insert the age(z-scored) and sex per group.
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> > > > Bests
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> > > > El 23/11/10, David Flitney <[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>> escribió:
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> > > > > This means that one, or more, of your regressors are already modelling the mean. Please check and if you're in any doubt then post your design so we can double check it. 
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> > > > > On 23 Nov 2010, at 12:02, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
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> > > > > > Dear FSL users
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> > > > > > I'm running randomise, and when i add the -D flag warning message appears:
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> > > > > > "Warning: You have demeaned your data, but at least one design column has non-zero mean"
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> > > > > > Regards
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Laboratory of Functional Neuroscience
Department of Physiology, Anatomy, and Cell Biology
University Pablo de Olavide
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