I support the statement and am in awe of how quickly this statement has been written!
good luck with the protest
Alison
> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:41:50 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Rough draft of brief statement on behalf of CommPsy Section and/or CommPsy list?
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Can we maybe try to set a precedent here, please? If no-one objects to
> the statement within, say, three days, then we can say it comes from the
> list as a whole?
> J.
>
> On 29/11/2010 23:32, Gavriel Ansara wrote:
> > David, I am delighted to have logged on to make editorial changes, only
> > to find that you have already made them.
> > I support David's edited version of the collective statement and believe
> > it should be sent from the list as a whole, if people are amenable.
> > I should clarify my awareness that APA is regressive and that my intent
> > was not to position them inaccurately as progressive, but to use a
> > document from an influential, mainstream psychological organisation to
> > frame our statement as not 'fringe', in case doing so makes our message
> > more accessible to psychological professionals. Since I am unable to
> > find an equivalent position statement from within UK psy professions,
> > perhaps our statement will (in part) serve that purpose.
> > 'I also would prefer to try to avoid focusing on an individual such as
> > Zucker and focus more on the oppressive discourses and practices which
> > giving platforms for his work promotes'
> > Absolutely agreed. I'm very happy with the statement after David's
> > incorporation of editorial changes. Are list members in favour of going
> > ahead with this statement?
> > Gavi
> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Fryer, David <[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Gavi and all,
> >
> > Thank you again for all your wonderful work.
> >
> > I am a member of the interim committee of the CP Section.. Jacqui
> > has been consulting members. I wont divulge what is being suggested
> > and I expect that Jacqui A, as Chair of the interim committee, will
> > update us re CP Section actions but for now I think we can assume
> > the Section interim committee will write its own letter rather than
> > one on behalf of the Committee and List.
> >
> > (Some) list members may wish for a response by ’the list.’ I don't
> > think we technically have a resolution but we could issue a
> > statement of concern? However the List has no satisfactory mechanism
> > for generating collective statements. One alternative is that a
> > letter is written and people who want to do so sign up (as Gavi has
> > done and people are doing). However speaking out on these matters
> > can expose signatories to unwelcome attention and attacks. I think
> > we should not be collectively silenced by this but I do think we
> > should not underestimate the costs on individuals of speaking out.
> > It is safer for those of us with more privileges (like me) to speak
> > out than it is for those with fewer. An alternative to a letter
> > signed by people openly would be a letter sent by the List
> > moderators (Grant and m/ or me) on behalf of ‘X’ list members.
> >
> > Regarding invoking the American Psychological Association Resolution
> > on Transgender, Gender Identity, and Gender Expression
> > Non-Discrimination<http://www.apa.org/about/governance/council/policy/chapter-12b.aspx#transgender>
> > (APA, 2008): I think that this would work better in a transatlantic
> > context than for us now here. For members of a BPS Section
> > addressing members of a BPS Division or members of the BPS itself
> > via the Psychologist by reference to an APA resolution would, I
> > think, read oddly and be less than desirable. Besides the APA is so
> > problematic in relation to so many issues (e.g. torture) that to
> > position the APA as progressive seems problematic to me. Moreover I
> > don’t think we need to invoke the authority of the APA to oppose
> > discrimination and support legal and social recognition in relation
> > to diversity. The first part and bullet points could be omitted and
> > the next section rewritten along those lines?
> >
> > I also would prefer to try to avoid focusing on an individual such
> > as Zucker and focus more on the oppressive discourses and practices
> > which giving platforms for his work promotes
> >
> > A version of Gavi's message edited and amended in line with the
> > above suggestions and with some changes suggested by others posting
> > on the list could look like what follows. But this is very rough and
> > just at this stage suggestive as an alternative:
> >
> > Statement of concern regarding Dr Kenneth Zucker’s invited keynote
> > lecture at the British Psychological Society Division of Clinical
> > Psychology Conference 2010
> > The work of Dr Kenneth Zucker, which functions to undermine support
> > for children’s own gender and gender-associated expression, is
> > discriminatory against people whose own gender differs from their
> > gender assignment (e.g., those often labelled ‘trans’ or ‘gender
> > variant’) and inhibits the legal and social recognition of
> > transgender individuals consistent with their gender identity and
> > expression. promotion of discourses which position children who
> > self-identify as boys as ‘girls with gender identity disorder’ or
> > self-identified girls as ‘boys with GID’, we believe, violates
> > professional ethics that mandate psychological professionals to
> > avoid causing harm.
> >
> > In addition to problematic discriminatory discourse, problematic
> > practices, including behavioural reorientation work with children,
> > violates international human rights policies, including the United
> > Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) by interfering
> > with children’s freedom of play and expression, and by failing to
> > provide children the opportunity to be heard and their views to be
> > given due weight, in relation to their experiences of their own
> > gender and gender-associated expression. Deterring children from
> > wearing clothes associated with any gender, from playing with
> > friends of any gender, or from engaging in play stereotypically
> > associated with any gender is oppressive.
> >
> > Members of the UK Community Psychology discussion list are concerned
> > that the problematic discourses and practices, promoted by Dr
> > Zucker's work, continue to receive support from within British
> > psychology and that they are proactively promoted through Dr Zucker
> > being afforded leadership positions on the American Psychological
> > Association Task Force on Gender Identity, Gender Variance, and
> > Intersex Conditions, the American Psychiatric Association Workgroup
> > on Sexual and Gender Identity Disorders preparing the 2012 edition
> > of the DSM-V and the World Professional Association for Transgender
> > Health (WPATH, formerly the Harry Benjamin International Gender
> > Dysphoria Association) Standards of Care (SOC) Workgroup Committee.
> > We urge the British Psychological Society Division of Clinical
> > Psychology and all psychological professionals to:
> >
> > * support legal and social recognition of people of all ages in
> > a manner consistent with their self-designated gender
> > * protect the freedom of all children to play, dress,
> > friendship, and expression associated with any gender
> > * condemn behavioural reorientation work with children
> > * boycott and protest psychological environments that support
> > discriminatory and oppressive discourses and practices which
> > functions to undermine support for children’s own gender and
> > gender-associated expression, are discriminatory against people
> > whose own gender differs from their gender assignment and inhibit
> > the legal and social recognition of transgender individuals
> > consistent with their gender identity and expression
> >
> > names or
> >
> > On behalf of X Members of the UK Community Psychology Discussion list
> > November, 2010
> >
> >
> >
> > David Fryer
> > Professor of Community Critical Psychology, Charles Sturt
> > University, Australia
> > Professor Extraordinarius, University of South Africa
> > Honorary Senior Research Fellow, University of Stirling, Scotland
> > President: European Community Psychology Association
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List
> > [[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Gavriel
> > Ansara [[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>]
> > Sent: 29 November 2010 18:29
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Rough draft of brief statement on behalf of CommPsy Section
> > and/or CommPsy list?
> >
> > Dear David and Section/list folk,
> >
> > Below is a rough draft that I can edit and complete this evening,
> > but I wanted to share the basic scaffold for your input and feedback.
> > I can add citations tonight, too, so I am aware that these need to
> > be added.
> > I've signed and perhaps we could combine individual signatures with
> > organisational/institutional/list/section affiliations in the final
> > version.
> >
> > Gavi
> > --
> >
> > November, 2010 Resolution against Dr Kenneth Zucker’s invited
> > keynote at the Department of Clinical Psychology at Manchester
> > As community and critical psychologists, we invoke the American
> > Psychological Association Resolution on Transgender, Gender
> > Identity, and Gender Expression
> > Non-Discrimination<http://www.apa.org/about/governance/council/policy/chapter-12b.aspx#transgender>
> > (APA, 2008) that calls on psychologists to play a leadership role in:
> >
> > *
> > ending discrimination against people whose own gender differs from
> > their gender assignment (e.g., those often labelled ‘trans’ or
> > ‘gender variant’)
> > *
> > 'support(ing) legal and social recognition of transgender
> > individuals consistent with their gender identity and expression’.
> >
> > The work of Dr Kenneth Zucker is in clear violation of this policy
> > due to his refusal to support children’s own gender and
> > gender-associated expression. We are concerned by discriminatory
> > nature of his pathologizing treatment of children. Referring to
> > children who self-identify as boys as ‘girls with gender identity
> > disorder’ or self-identified girls as ‘boys with GID’ contravenes
> > the spirit of APA’s resolution and, we believe, constitutes a
> > violation of professional ethics that mandate psychological
> > professionals to avoid causing harm. (should I add more here about
> > the results of his 'treatment' or not?)
> > In addition to violating APA policy on recognising people’s own
> > gender, Dr Zucker’s behavioural reorientation work with children
> > violates international human rights policies, including the United
> > Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) by interfering
> > with children’s freedom of play and expression. Deterring children
> > from wearing clothes associated with any gender, from playing with
> > friends of any gender, or from engaging in play stereotypically
> > associated with any gender constitutes harmful discrimination.
> > We are alarmed that Dr Zucker continues to receive support from
> > within psychology and that he continues to hold leadership positions
> > on the American Psychological Association Task Force on Gender
> > Identity, Gender Variance, and Intersex Conditions, the American
> > Psychiatric Association Workgroup on Sexual and Gender Identity
> > Disorders preparing the 2012 edition of the DSM-V and the World
> > Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH, formerly the
> > Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association) Standards
> > of Care (SOC) Workgroup Committee. The influence of Dr Zucker’s
> > discriminatory approach on these three key policy-making
> > organisations that address treatment of people with self-designated,
> > non-assigned gender inhibits their ability to achieve the goals of
> > APA’s resolution. Rather than take a leadership role in ending
> > discrimination, psychological institutions and committees that give
> > Dr Zucker a platform to spread his bigoted ideas in some cases
> > violate their own resolutions and directives.
> > We urge the Department of Clinical Psychology and other professional
> > environments to consider the non-pathologizing and supportive
> > approaches offered by Diane Ehrensaft, Edgardo Menvielle, Herb
> > Schreier, and other professionals who have successfully assisted
> > these young people in actualising their own gender and
> > gender-associated expression.
> > We urge psychological professionals to :
> >
> > * support legal and social recognition of people of all ages in
> > a manner consistent with their self-designated gender
> > * protect the freedom of all children to play, dress,
> > friendship, and expression associated with any gender
> > * condemn Dr Zucker’s behavioural reorientation work with children
> > * boycott and protest psychological environments that support Dr
> > Zucker’s work
> > In conscience and community,
> > Y. Gavriel Ansara, MSc, Department of Psychology, University of Surrey
> > (add your signatures here)
> >
> > --
> > Mr Y. Gavriel Ansara, MSc
> > 席嘉力 آتش جاوید גבריאל יוסף
> >
> > 'Zoos are full, prisons are overflowing... my, how the world still
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> >
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> > --
> > Mr Y. Gavriel Ansara, MSc
> > 席嘉力 آتش جاوید גבריאל יוסף
> >
> > 'Zoos are full, prisons are overflowing... my, how the world still
> > dearly loves a cage.' -Maude
> >
> > ٠•●♥Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ♥●•٠·˙
> >
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> > University of Surrey, Department of Psychology
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> >
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> >
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> > http://kerulos.org/
> >
> > Contributing Author, Counselling Ideologies: Queer Challenges to
> > Heteronormativity
> > http://www.ashgate.com/isbn/9780754676836
> >
> > Member & Co-Author, Professionals Concerned with Gender Diagnoses in the DSM
> > http://www.professionals.gidreform.org/
> >
> > Former Founding Director & Former Founding Advocates Programme
> > Co-Supervisor, Lifelines Rhode Island/Cuerdas de Salvamento
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> >
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