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Eleanor I haven't experience of using these ramps but from the website these appear to be more aimed at portability. I actually think that 4 steps, with an average height per step of 150mm would mean an overall height of around 600mm? Even going down to 1 in 10 , which is fairly steep, would mean something at least 6 metres long would be fairly bulky and unwieldy. The ramp as shown once deployed doesn't appear to have much grip and I certainly wouldn't like to be negotiating such a gradient especially in an emergency. Is there no scope to actually put a permanent ramp in, instead of the steps? It could be a semi permanent type, that could be removed if required but was there in place, with handrails etc to make a safe route whether in emergency or normal use? Kind Regards Justin Ryan MSc MinstLM Accessibility and Inclusion Manager Southeastern, Old Red Star Office Canterbury East Station Station Road East Canterbury Kent CT1 2RB F. 01233 617837 ________________________________ From: Accessibuilt list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Eleanor Lisney Sent: 19 November 2010 12:31 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Rollaramp Hi all, My local community arts centre would like to have this ramp as an alternative for Evac chairs. There is a flight of 4 steps as an escape route/exit in the eventuality of emergency evacuations/fire. http://www.rollaramp.co.uk/index3/ Has anybody used them? Advice would be much appreciated, Eleanor Lisney For Artspace Coventry http://connectculture.co.uk/ ----------End of Message---------- Run by SURFACE for more information on research, consultancy and the distance taught MSc. in Accessibility and Inclusive Design programme visit: http://www.surface.salford.ac.uk Archives for the Accessibuilt discussion list are located at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/accessibuilt.html ****** Southeastern is a wholly owned subsidiary of Govia Ltd, which is part of The Go-Ahead Group plc and Keolis. The information herein, including any transmitted files, is confidential; intended for the addressee only; and contains only the personal views of the author. The Go-Ahead Group plc and its subsidiaries shall not be bound by anything herein and shall not be liable for any losses as a result of virus transmission, although endeavours are made to protect against this. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the originator. Southeastern (is a trading name of London & South Eastern Railway Ltd) is registered in England No. 04860660, The Go-Ahead Group plc is registered in England No. 2100855 and Govia is registered in England No. 3278419). The Registered Office: 3rd Floor, 41-51 Grey Street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne NE1 6EE ****** ----------End of Message---------- Run by SURFACE for more information on research, consultancy and the distance taught MSc. in Accessibility and Inclusive Design programme visit: http://www.surface.salford.ac.uk Archives for the Accessibuilt discussion list are located at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/accessibuilt.html