Natural philosophy rools ok!
MK
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I agree with this wholeheartedly!
Lesley
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Well since you are all dying to know what I think, here goes:
I think we should stop trying to define the vast range of contemporary research using the organisational system of 18th Century universities.
There. I feel better now. And I hope that will be the last word on the matter.
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An end to the social "sciences". It makes sense but perhaps "humanities" would be better than "social studies". This would mean that people who study social insects, for example, could still be considered scientists. But would the "humanities" have to cover studies of human physiology?
It would be great if people who communicated science recognized that many of the conclusions drawn from the studies of humans cannot be considered scientifically valid and are not worth communicating - while others are.
Lesley
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Sent: 08 October 2010 08:46
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Dear all,
Perhaps these possible definitions could help?
science - the best method we have developed to explore, discover and
understand thatever is there or happens without human intervention, i.e.
the natural world, the universe. Embraces physics, biology, chemistry,
and their combinations geology, astrobiology, cosmology, etc. Ideally
curiosity driven.
technology - applied science, the manipulation, application of those
discoveries for our benefit (or the benefit of a few in many cases!).
Embraces engineering (mechanical electric, civil, etc), medicine, and even
the impact of all these on our nearby, vital environment. Sadly, often
driven by economic interests.
Yes, we also need technology to do science and science feeds technology,
but they are by principle, different.
social sciences should be called social studies instead.
Mathematics is a tool applied to virtually all disciplines, science,
technology, social studies, arts...
This is relevant for many aspects of public engagement (big confusion
between science and technology), but mainly for the way all this is
funded. The more letters you put in an acronym, the more diluted are the
resources for each of them.
Scientist in the USA have fighted to keep the NSF without T's or E's. We
did have an SRC ages ago.
best regards
francisco
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