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As a former TV researcher, I am inclined to agree with Sophia. I have been appalled by some of the questions / kind of help asked for by some TV researchers who stumble across this mailing list. There is a real problem with the way certain TV companies / TV employees treat contributors and not just in science TV. When working in TV, I often encountered people who were reluctant to help with my production because they had been treated poorly in previous encounters with TV people. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Sophia Collins <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Sorry, and I may be about to sound like a bitch, but I have a lot more > time for the spoof comment than for the original questioner. > > I see your point Lalita, about anonymous commenting, but this was a bit of > a nadir in requests for information. When I worked in TV I contributed to a > forum for TV freelancers and we would occasionally get posts like these - > 'can anyone tell me 10 facts about wolves?' being one that sticks in the > mind. Those posts would get, quite rightly, imho, shot down in flames. > > I think it's reasonable to ask specific questions that show the questioner > is professional, knows what they are doing, and has exhausted other angles. > e.g. 'I'm looking for a filming location with a Victorian operating theatre > for X, I have tried Y, does anyone have suggestions?'. > > But this request is from a personal hotmail account, not a company one, it > does not specify the production company making it and the description of the > programme is so vague that I can't believe it's been commissioned yet or > that anyone has any idea what will be in it. This researcher would need to > do a considerable amount of research before they could even frame some > focussed questions and frankly, I'm kind of shocked they think other > people's time is so less valuable than their own that they haven't done > this. > > Peter, in my opinion, no this is explicitly *not *a list for helping > people out with science questions. It's primarily a list for people working > in science communication and engagement to share information which may be of > use to the community. > > I'm sure I do sound like a prissy old cow:-) But really, if every > researcher at the start of developing a programme idea just sent emails like > this to psci-com then we would be wading through the things! > > Best wishes all, > > Sophia > > Sophia Collins > Producer > I'm a Scientist - Winner of the Sciencewise-ERC People's Choice Award for excellence in Public Engagement with Science. > event site | www.imascientist.org.uk > project blog | http://imascientist.org.uk > twitter | http://twitter.com/imascientist > I'm a Councillor | www.bigvote.org.uk > > Gallomanor Communications Ltd | www.gallomanor.com > 01225 869413 > 31 Silver Street > Bradford on Avon > BA15 1JX > > Registered in England & Wales, No. 03980700. > Registered Address: Duckmead Cottage, Farleigh Wick, Bradford-on-Avon, BA15 2PU > > > On 27/10/2010 13:43, Peter Collins wrote: > > Thanks Lalita, > Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I don't see the point in > being rude. I was under the impression that this list was for helping people > out with science/media questions - please let me know if i have > misunderstood this. > > Science, and particularly its communication, is about sharing and > exchanging ideas, but i can assure the anonymous person that I am spending a > lot of time doing my own research. Any extra help from you guys is an > added bonus, > Best, > Peter > > > > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 13:35:47 +0100 > > From: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Spoof: Experiments for science TV series about > Human Body > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > Dear List, > > > > I've removed this person from the list. While it may be OK to question > someone else's contribution to the list, I don't think that signing up > annonymously to make a sarcastic posting is a useful contribution. I hope > you agree with my decision. > > > > kind regards, > > > > Lalita Kaplish > > list administrator > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: psci-com: on public engagement with science > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf > Of Lazy Researcher > > > Sent: 27 October 2010 13:05 > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: [PSCI-COM] Spoof: Experiments for science TV series > > > about Human Body > > > > > > Dear All > > > > > > I am a researcher for a TV company. I have no background or > > > interest in science, that is why I think looking at men > > > preferring blonds or how gingers experience pain constitutes > > > "revealing experiments". I can't be bothered to look on > > > google so I wondered if there was anyone out there who could > > > do my work for me? 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