Thanks Alan!! Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:40:03 +0100 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Intangible Presence To: [log in to unmask] Dear Geisha and Pip, Thank you for your responses. It warms me to feel that my expressions of 'A gape in natural inclusional logic', through which the 'self' can breathe, can bring some respite in the face of oppression and hope for reformation. That is indeed the 'hole point', as in the poems written below during and just after the ALARA World Congress. Warmest Alan ---------------------------- Inventure – Finding the hole in One To ask where’s the gap in one’s logic Is to find the logic in one’s gap An entry place For breath to take In where there’s warmth To melt the ice That binds the self The one in the many Or the many in one That calls itself collective In solitude Where there’s no way to reach Out from within Or outwith in To where the song Can sing In resonant key Through the hole of reciprocal welcome Where the leverage point is agape …………. Helter-Skelter The Return of the Native Imagine yourself Born under cover of darkness In the shade of an umbrella Pierced by peepholes Into an other-worldly radiance That shines on coralline ocean Lapping up the shifting shores of landscape Flowing in rocks and water Air and fire streams Breathed in and breathed out By life itself As endless variety In this place you call home That holds and caresses you With open arms But there, at the edge of your stare Where your home finds its limit horizon Glinting with cut-glass precision Is the baseline of prismatic structure Abstracted out of kilter A multi-story high rise power block Splitting apart between seven floors Each to its own paradox Confined yet connected Point to point By a dichotomous tree Inverted With bottom at top Bifurcating to lower orders With multiple entry points Where you can enter freely From abasement So long as you close the door behind you! Once inside this glass-cut space There’s no where for you to go but up Beckoned by idealism Of social or economic aspirations Coloured monotonously Red or Blue Me or You Us or Them Here or There Each a cut above the rest Reached by ladders climbed assiduously To the point where worlds collide Far above the ground you left behind In a room where All presume to be One Suffocating as a Whole That claims from aloft To be more than the parts Beneath itself From which it ascended Only to bang its head Against the ceiling So near and yet so far From what was shut outside Less than a hare’s breath away Yet, deep in the core of this prism Reaches the umbrella’s shaft A focal passage Receptive to all who reach for it Without resistance Lifting from base to apex But not stopping there Instead emerging into slippery spiral gutter By way of which the native returns Whizzing gleefully down slope To where he and she belong Together as children playing In the light of darkness In the darkness of light Learning along the way That gathers before into after Continually With no need to get stuck in the prism That seems to cut a dash in space But can’t. ………………. ----- Original Message ----- From: geisha rebolledo To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Intangible Presence Pip, Thank you very much for your mail. Yes!! KIA KAHA !!! Greetings, Geisha Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:17:49 +1300 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Intangible Presence To: [log in to unmask] Dear Geisha and others Sad to hear what is happening in your country, Geisha. I know universities around the globe are under pressure - there are layoffs and union action in mine, I know. But not on the scale that you're describing. I will add your situation to my prayer list! Kia kaha (Maori expression meaning 'be strong', hang on in there) Pip On 22/10/2010 5:08 a.m., geisha rebolledo wrote: Dear Alan and all, Thank you so much for comming back to the web. I was already wondering what happen ?? It is a long time since I heard from you all .... You made me happy again after this mail.... remember my context is full with situations that , specially in Caracas, encourege very little deep thinking like this from Alan... For example my University is on a month strike because the government reduce our salaryes and owns a debt from 2008, so there is no salary payments, we are in a real mess...... so to find this paper on the intangible is wonderful... If i could say something about it Alan I could start by telling you that thanks to the intangible we manage to survive in this context at the moment... people in order to avoid the problems, specially those with socialistic government , also the 30.0 year inflation , the killings arround, etc., turn to the intangible as the only way... For example during the past asembly elections there were pray meetings everywere ... and there are small alternative places to go to meditate and to learn about spiritual subjects in order to fight this reality with intangible weapons because that is were the fight is located at intangible fields. Last week I attended a seminar on interdimensionality, this concept I believe it is related to what you call the intangible. From my point of view it is the main characteristic of the intangible. It helped me to give a certain order to other concepts like those involve in your paper. But another part is how the brain can become an interdimentional station for communication with the intangible.... Well I stop here, I would like to continue with this topic, many greetings, geisha Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:55:50 +0100 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Intangible Presence To: [log in to unmask] Dear All, FYPI, I have just drafted the attached short paper, and intend shortly to post it to www.bestthinking.com. Warmest Alan