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Dear Phil, Many thanks. Meanwhile, Roy has persuaded me of the need to prepare a 'Natural Inclusional Glossary'. I have made a start on this - see attached. Looks like it will be quite an endeavour. Warmest Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "PHILIP TATTERSALL" <[log in to unmask]> To: "'Alan Rayner (BU)'" <[log in to unmask]>; "'Practitioner-Researcher'" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: RE: Intangible Presence > Hello Alan, > > Many thanks for sharing these great emails! > > Roy's response is a beauty: "I am getting quite sure that the notions of > unity and wholeness are our own human impositions on a much more complex > and > unpredictable flux of nature. They are our Apollonian order-seeking > impulses > overriding the Dionysian wildness of life (and death). Let's hear it for > wildness!" > > Almost reads like an abstract for a very interesting paper! > > I love the NatureMoments initiative. It's gentle, well presented and > engaging. > > Warmest, > > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Rayner (BU) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Saturday, 23 October 2010 7:25 PM > To: Practitioner-Researcher > Subject: Re: Intangible Presence > > Dear Lee, > > Thank you very much. I do have a possible painting in mind, but whether I > get around to it remains to be seen. Perhaps you could paint the image in > your mind? I'd love that - real co-creativity! > > Yes, I think there may well be a relationship with prescience, which I > might > describe in terms of an electrifying sense of close attunement, affinity > or > rapport with my neighbourhood. It is especially strong when I experience > 'NatureMoments' (see attached leaflets), when painting or writing > poetically, when knowingly dreaming and when in the company of eager > learners (including myself). I suspect it may be related to 'superchannel' > formation (portrayed in the attached painting as a deep kind of > connectivity). Some tell me that they sense an 'aura' around me on those > occasions, and I have indeed experienced some kind of clairvoyance in > them, > which I don't know what to make of. But it's not always a 'good' feeling. > One of my most prescient dreams occurred in early September 2001, when I > was > on a plane that was hijacked, flown into a vertical edifice and caught > fire > - I woke with a sense of my skin alight. > > As you may know, and as the poems below themselves relate, I do these days > have a bit of a problem with the language of 'wholeness' and > 'connectedness', which I feel does not do justice to the depth, wonder, > fluidity and openness of the experience, and indeed, for me, can colonize > and stifle it. This is why I feel that 'natural inclusionality' reaches > beyond (whilst accommodating and transforming) abstract 'holism' and > 'whole > systems theory', and why I can feel very uncomfortable with glib > expressions > of the latter (NB I'm not accusing you of this, in fact I feel sure that > your intention is natural inclusional!!!), especially in the context of > 'decolonizing praxis'. > > My friend, Roy Reynolds, sent me the following comment last night, which I > strongly agree with: > > "I am getting quite sure that the notions of unity and wholeness are our > own > human impositions on a much more complex and unpredictable flux of nature. > They are our Apollonian order-seeking impulses overriding the Dionysian > wildness of life (and death). Let's hear it for wildness!" > > > Warmest > > Alan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lee Nicole Scott" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: Intangible Presence > > > Hi Alan > i really enjoyed Helter- Skelter. I get an incredible visual from it. > Have > you painted it? > > When i was reading about presence in your article, there were bits that > clicked me through to thinking about prescience. Without sounding wierd, I > felt there was quite a strong link. I think this of this because when one > is > > well rounded, ok, when I am feeling balanced, whole, harmonious and > connected to the earth; then i have 'presence'(i.e- other people can > feel > my energy) . Then in this presence space,i experience this foreknowledge > / > prescience and it is a very good place to be. What do you think hey, what > do > > you experience? > > Happy days. > > Have a great weekend. > lee > ________________________________________ > From: Practitioner-Researcher [[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Alan Rayner (BU) [[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 22 October 2010 08:40 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Intangible Presence > > Dear Geisha and Pip, > > Thank you for your responses. It warms me to feel that my expressions of > 'A > gape in natural inclusional logic', through which the 'self' can breathe, > can bring some respite in the face of oppression and hope for reformation. > That is indeed the 'hole point', as in the poems written below during and > just after the ALARA World Congress. > > Warmest > > Alan > > ---------------------------- > > Inventure - Finding the hole in One > > To ask where's the gap in one's logic > Is to find the logic in one's gap > An entry place > For breath to take > In where there's warmth > To melt the ice > That binds the self > The one in the many > Or the many in one > That calls itself collective > In solitude > Where there's no way to reach > Out from within > Or outwith in > To where the song > Can sing > In resonant key > Through the hole of reciprocal welcome > Where the leverage point is agape > > ..... > > Helter-Skelter > The Return of the Native > > Imagine yourself > Born under cover of darkness > In the shade of an umbrella > Pierced by peepholes > Into an other-worldly radiance > That shines on coralline ocean > Lapping up the shifting shores of landscape > Flowing in rocks and water > Air and fire streams > Breathed in and breathed out > By life itself > As endless variety > In this place you call home > That holds and caresses you > With open arms > > But there, at the edge of your stare > Where your home finds its limit horizon > Glinting with cut-glass precision > Is the baseline of prismatic structure > Abstracted out of kilter > A multi-story high rise power block > Splitting apart between seven floors > Each to its own paradox > Confined yet connected > Point to point > By a dichotomous tree > Inverted > With bottom at top > Bifurcating to lower orders > With multiple entry points > Where you can enter freely > From abasement > So long as you close the door behind you! > > Once inside this glass-cut space > There's no where for you to go but up > Beckoned by idealism > Of social or economic aspirations > Coloured monotonously > Red or Blue > Me or You > Us or Them > Here or There > Each a cut above the rest > Reached by ladders climbed assiduously > To the point where worlds collide > > Far above the ground you left behind > In a room where All presume to be One > Suffocating as a Whole > That claims from aloft > To be more than the parts > Beneath itself > From which it ascended > Only to bang its head > Against the ceiling > So near and yet so far > From what was shut outside > Less than a hare's breath away > > Yet, deep in the core of this prism > Reaches the umbrella's shaft > A focal passage > Receptive to all who reach for it > Without resistance > Lifting from base to apex > But not stopping there > > Instead emerging into slippery spiral gutter > By way of which the native returns > Whizzing gleefully down slope > To where he and she belong > Together as children playing > In the light of darkness > In the darkness of light > Learning along the way > That gathers before into after > Continually > With no need to get stuck in the prism > That seems to cut a dash in space > But can't. > > > ....... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: geisha rebolledo<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > To: > [log in to unmask]<mailto:PRACTITIONER-RESEARCHER@JISCMA > IL.AC.UK> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: Intangible Presence > > Pip, > Thank you very much for your mail. Yes!! KIA KAHA !!! Greetings, Geisha > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 08:17:49 +1300 > From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Intangible Presence > To: > [log in to unmask]<mailto:PRACTITIONER-RESEARCHER@JISCMA > IL.AC.UK> > > Dear Geisha and others > > Sad to hear what is happening in your country, Geisha. I know universities > around the globe are under pressure - there are layoffs and union action > in > mine, I know. But not on the scale that you're describing. > > I will add your situation to my prayer list! > > Kia kaha (Maori expression meaning 'be strong', hang on in there) > > Pip > > On 22/10/2010 5:08 a.m., geisha rebolledo wrote: > Dear Alan and all, > > > > Thank you so much for comming back to the web. I was already wondering > what > > happen ?? It is a long time since I heard from you all .... You made me > happy again after this mail.... remember my context is full with > situations > that , specially in Caracas, encourege very little deep thinking like > this > > from Alan... For example my University is on a month strike because the > government reduce our salaryes and owns a debt from 2008, so there is no > salary payments, we are in a real mess...... so to find this paper on the > intangible is wonderful... If i could say something about it Alan I could > start by telling you that thanks to the intangible we manage to survive in > this context at the moment... people in order to avoid the problems, > specially those with socialistic government , also the 30.0 year > inflation > > , the killings arround, etc., turn to the intangible as the only way... > For > example during the past asembly elections there were pray meetings > everywere > > ... and there are small alternative places to go to meditate and to learn > about spiritual subjects in order to fight this reality with > intangible > weapons because that is were the fight is located at intangible fields. > Last week I attended a seminar on interdimensionality, this concept I > believe it is related to what you call the intangible. From my point of > view it is the main characteristic of the intangible. It helped me to > give a certain order to other concepts like those involve in your paper. > But > > another part is how the brain can become an interdimentional station for > communication with the intangible.... Well I stop here, I would like to > continue with this topic, many greetings, geisha > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:55:50 +0100 > From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Intangible Presence > To: > [log in to unmask]<mailto:PRACTITIONER-RESEARCHER@JISCMA > IL.AC.UK> > > Dear All, > > FYPI, I have just drafted the attached short paper, and intend shortly to > post it to www.bestthinking.com<http://>. > > Warmest > > Alan > > "This e-mail is subject to our Disclaimer, to view click > http://www.dut.ac.za" > > > > >