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Jo thanks good to know some posh poets who know these things! How do you pronounce Hamilton, Grumman and that Bircumshaw??? -----Original Message----- From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Bircumshaw Sent: 23 October 2010 13:20 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: William Cowper Cooper. His distant descendant J.C.Powys was John Cooper. On 23 October 2010 13:03, Patrick McManus <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > William Cowper ---please could some tell me is it pronounced Cow-per or is > it Cooper? Or both or other??? > > I realise that the Ozzies Canadians American s even Finns let alone > Canadians will perhaps have their own > > And I expect the Rodent etc will give me a whole range depending on date > district etc > > Cheers Patrick the speachless > -- (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling" Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/