If only those pesky library users would stop asking for what they want, & accept what librarians and councillors want! What business thrives by ignoring its core customers? John Dolan has shown more sense than many about consulting library users, so I am surprised to see this attitude. Obviously a library service is more than a library building. But all the up-to-the-minute talk of local priorities, community hubs, social value, etc etc - and research, especially what John quotes below - assume a BUILDING. That's a building one can get to, without loading 3 kids & a push-chair on to two buses to get to the shiny mega-libe in the town centre. I was reluctantly obliged to become a library campaigner about 12 years ago. My LA announced a brilliant plan to close ALL the local libraries, in one of the most deprived inner-city boroughs in the country, & concentrate resources on a handful of super-libes. They flatly refused even to discuss this with mere locals. When the Public Library Standards came out, our assessment of the plan was proved right. Long story short - in a final compromise, locals agreed to 2 closures on condition a 'library facility' would replace each. Ten years later, there is no sign of either. Local people have much longer memories than ambitious staff or councillors (that's why they are such a useful resource). So if they get stroppy (as currently in Lewisham) there is almost invariably a story behind it. Laura Swaffield On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:25, John Dolan wrote: > ---------------------- Information from the mail header > ----------------------- > Sender: "lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries" <LIS-PUB- > [log in to unmask]> > Poster: John Dolan <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: budget pressures > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0366_01CB7636.9ECA9820 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > =20 > > But this is all inputs. Everyone has become obsessed with keeping = > buildings > open even part time =96 only =96 as long as it looks as though > it=92s = > working. > This is the problem with so-called library =91campaigners=92 who = > =91campaign=92 for > buildings and book lending =96 not wrong per se =96 but ignore the > rest; = > the > most harmful stereotyping. The real =91campaign=92 is to promote > what = > libraries > do and what people do with libraries. > > =20 > > If you look at all the sources and resources of evidence [as in my > last = > mail > to the list] they are all about benefits, usage, appreciation and = > impact. > Simply look at one =85 you=92ll well remember =91Why families value = > libraries=92 > 2006 [?] > > =20 > > What families told us they love most about libraries [p5] > > - friendly and welcoming staff > > - free activities and events > > - access to fast computers, books, DVDs, story tapes and > information > > - opportunities to meet other families in a local, trusted, > community space > > =20 > > What families suggested would make libraries even better: [p19] > > - more family activities =96 at weekends and evenings too > so = > working > parents can join in=20 > > - family IT sessions > > - a place to listen to story tapes together > > - a family library card > > - and all the practical things =96 toilets, baby changing = > bottle > warming, caf=E9s, water fountains, better access, for double > buggies, so = > that > families don=92t have to cut, their visits short > > =20 > > Among the stats it states, percentage of family users of library > that = > said > that the following would encourage them the most to use the library > more > often as a family: Top of the list?=20 > > Longer opening hours 33% > > =20 > > The evidence is based on two surveys in June 2006;=20 > > a MORI omnibus survey of a nationally representative sample of = > respondents > who had visited a library as a family.=20 > > The second was a postcard survey conducted in public libraries in = > England. > > =20 > > Alternatively look at the LASER/DCMS/MLA study of 2006 on what 14-35 = > year > olds wanted in the future [now 19-40year olds - hurry!]; it was =93a > destination=94, in sum a place where things happen. > > =20 > > Nothing else does all this like libraries; it=92s not just that some = > should > remain tactically =91open=92, but that they do what people = > want=85=85=85=85=85=20 > > =20 > > John =20 > > =20 > > John Dolan OBE, BA, Dip Lib, MCLIP > > =20 > > E. <mailto:[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask] > > T. 0121 476 4258 > > M. 07508 204200 > > _____ =20 > > From: lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries = > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > On Behalf Of Liz Dubber > Sent: 27 October 2010 21:32 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: budget pressures > > =20 > > Did anyone else hear the programme on radio 4 this morning about > =91parliamentary trains=92? > > These are train services which are maintained at a laughably minimal = > level > (e.g. one service per week in one direction only!) because it > notionally > keeps the service open when the consultation process to close it > would = > be > far more costly. They are very little used and uneconomic, but > running = > the > train is still cheaper than going through the process of closing the = > line. > > =20 > > While we face a prospect of numerous library closures as the > budgets for > next year start to bite, is there a germ of an idea here for > libraries? > > Might it be cheaper to maintain a network of service points at = > drastically > reduced number of hours, rather than face the complexity and > expense of > public consultation over closure ( together with the likely high > level = > of > public opposition that suggestions of closure usually generate). > > =20 > > I=92m not usually an advocate of such reduced opening hours but this = > programme > made me look at them a bit differently. =20 > > At least the infrastructure is preserved for a possible come-back > in the > future. > > =20 > > Liz Dubber > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > =20 > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0366_01CB7636.9ECA9820 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = > xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = > xmlns:x=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" = > xmlns:p=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" = > xmlns:a=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" = > xmlns:dt=3D"uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" = > xmlns:s=3D"uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" = > xmlns:rs=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" > xmlns:z=3D"#RowsetSchema" = > xmlns:b=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" = > xmlns:ss=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" = > xmlns:c=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" = > xmlns:odc=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" = > xmlns:oa=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" = > xmlns:html=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" = > xmlns:q=3D"http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" = > xmlns:rtc=3D"http://microsoft.com/officenet/conferencing" = > xmlns:D=3D"DAV:" xmlns:Repl=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/repl/" = > xmlns:mt=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/meetings/" = > xmlns:x2=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" = > xmlns:ppda=3D"http://www.passport.com/NameSpace.xsd" = > xmlns:ois=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" = > xmlns:dir=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ > directory/" = > xmlns:ds=3D"http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" = > xmlns:dsp=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" = > xmlns:udc=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" = > xmlns:xsd=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" = > xmlns:sub=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/ > alerts/"= > xmlns:ec=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" = > xmlns:sp=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" = > xmlns:sps=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" = > xmlns:xsi=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" = > xmlns:udcs=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/soap" = > xmlns:udcxf=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" = > xmlns:udcp2p=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/parttopart" = > xmlns:st=3D"" = > xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" > xmlns:ns2=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" > xmlns:ns3=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig-setup" > xmlns:ns4=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig" > xmlns:ns5=3D"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/digital- > signa= > ture" > xmlns:ns6=3D"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/ > 2006"= > > xmlns:ns0=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" > xmlns:ns7=3D"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/ > relationships= > " > xmlns:ns8=3D"http://microsoft.com/sharepoint/webpartpages" > xmlns:ns9=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/ > types" > xmlns:ns10=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/ > message= > s" > xmlns:ns11=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ > SlideLibrary/"= > > xmlns:ns12=3D"http://microsoft.com/webservices/ > SharePointPortalServer/Pub= > lishedLinksService" > xmlns:ns13=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:"> > > <head> > <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; 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This is the problem with so-called library > ‘campaigners’ who ‘campaign’ for buildings > and = > book > lending – <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>not wrong per = > se</span></i> > – but ignore the rest; the most harmful stereotyping. The real = > ‘campaign’ > is to promote what libraries do and what people do with = > libraries.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></ > font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If you look at all the sources > and > resources of evidence [as in my last mail to the list] they are all = > about benefits, > usage, appreciation and impact. Simply look at one … > you’ll = > well > remember <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>‘Why families > value > libraries’</span></i> 2006 [?]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></ > font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font- > weight:bold; > font-style:italic'>What families told us they love most about > libraries = > [p5]<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = > lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>friendly > and = > welcoming > staff<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = > lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>free > activities = > and > events</span></font></i><i><font color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-family: > Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = > lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>access to > fast > computers, books, DVDs, story tapes and = > information<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 = > lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font- > style:italic'>opportunities = > to meet > other families in a local, trusted, community = > space<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font- > style:italic'= >> <o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font- > weight:bold; > font-style:italic'>What families suggested would make libraries even = > better: > [p19]<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 = > lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>more family = > activities > – at weekends and evenings too so working parents can join in = > <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 = > lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>family IT = > sessions<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 = > lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>a place to = > listen to > story tapes together<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 = > lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>=A0a family = > library card<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal = > style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 = > lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font > size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:blue'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=3D1 = > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span > style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New = > Roman"'> > </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><i><font color=3Dblue = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>and all the = > practical > things – toilets, baby changing bottle warming, caf=E9s, water = > fountains, > better access, for double buggies, so that families don’t > have to = > cut, their > visits short<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font- > style:italic'= >> <o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font- > style:italic'= >> Among > the stats it states, percentage of family users of library that said = > that the > following would <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>encourage them > the = > most to > use the library more often as a family</span></b>: = > </span></font></i><font > color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Top of the list?<i><span > style=3D'font-style:italic'> <o:p></o:p></span></i></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font- > style:italic'= >> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 <b><span > style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Longer opening hours > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = > 33%</span><o:p></o:p></b></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></ > font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:72.0pt'><i><font size=3D2 = > color=3Dblue > face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue; > font-style:italic'>The evidence is based on two surveys in June > 2006; = > <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:72.0pt'><i><font size=3D2 = > color=3Dblue > face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue; > font-style:italic'>a MORI omnibus survey of a nationally > representative = > sample > of respondents who had visited a library as a family. = > <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:72.0pt'><i><font size=3D2 = > color=3Dblue > face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue; > font-style:italic'>The second was a postcard survey conducted in > public > libraries in <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place = > w:st=3D"on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p></ > span></= > font></i></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></ > font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Alternatively look at the = > LASER/DCMS/MLA > study of 2006 on what 14-35 year olds wanted in the future [now = > 19-40year olds - > hurry!]; it was <i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'>“a = > destination</span></i>”, > in sum a place where things happen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></ > font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Nothing else does all this like = > libraries; > it’s not just that some should remain tactically = > ‘open’, but > that they do what people want…………… = > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></ > font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>John=A0 = > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></ > font></p> > > <div> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><b><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font- > style:italic'= >> John > Dolan OBE, BA, Dip Lib, MCLIP</span></font></i></b></strong><font = > color=3Dblue><span > style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue > face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 11.0pt;color:blue'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><em><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>E. = > </span></font></i></em><font > color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><a = > href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"><em><i><font > size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; > color:navy;text-decoration:none'>[log in to unmask]</span></ > font>= > </i></em></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><em><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>T. 0121 476 = > 4258</span></font></i></em><font > color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><em><i><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy = > face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>M. 07508 = > 204200</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></p> > > </div> > > <div> > > <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text- > align:center'><font = > size=3D3 > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-US = > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family: > "Times New Roman"'> > > <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> > > </span></font></div> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span > lang=3DEN-US > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font- > weight:bold'>From:</spa= > n></font></b><font > size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> > lis-pub-libs: UK Public Libraries [mailto:LIS-PUB- > [log in to unmask]] = > <b><span > style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Liz Dubber<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 27 October 2010 = > 21:32<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = > [log in to unmask]<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> budget = > pressures</span></font><font > size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-US = > style=3D'font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > </div> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Did > anyone else hear the programme on radio 4 this morning about > ‘parliamentary trains’?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>These > are train services which are maintained at a laughably minimal level = > (e.g. one > service per week in one direction only!) because it notionally > keeps the > service open when the consultation process to close it would be far > more > costly. They are very little used and uneconomic, but running > the = > train > is still cheaper than going through the process of closing the = > line.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>While > we face a prospect of numerous library closures as the budgets for > next = > year > start to bite, is there a germ of an idea here for = > libraries?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Might > it be cheaper to maintain a network of service points at drastically = > reduced > number of hours, rather than face the complexity and expense of public > consultation over closure ( together with the likely high level of = > public > opposition that suggestions of closure usually = > generate).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I’m > not usually an advocate of such reduced opening hours but this > programme = > made > me look at them a bit differently. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>At > least the infrastructure is preserved for a possible come-back in > the = > future.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Liz > Dubber<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span = > style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > </div> > > </body> > > </html> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0366_01CB7636.9ECA9820--