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  On 07/10/2010 18:15, Dr Leo Ruickbie wrote:

You might talk to Traditional Witchcraft practitioner (try Jack Daw) 
also West Country witchcraft -
as I know from experience that trapping spirits in objects is part of 
their current practice and indeed
  there are such objects in the Witchcraft Museum at Boscastle -
The trapping of spirits in objects (ie statues) must also be a part of 
classical/Egyptian magick -
its mentioned in the Hermetica as one of the core techniques -
and its part of the tradition that is revived in Kemetic revivalism?

if interested might have a url for trad witchcraft

Mogg
> Hi Dan,
>
> I've been looking into the concept of 'the external soul', so to 
> speak, in folklore, which could involve both human and nonhuman 
> externalisers. In these instances the soul/spirit is externalised on 
> what is intended to be a permanent basis. So, no, I wasn't really 
> thinking along the lines of the temporary 'capture' that is involved 
> in ritual invocation. Aaron reminded me that there was a passage in 
> /The Goetia/ regarding Solomon's legendary brass vessel and he'd 
> already made the connection to the Palo /nganga/. And I'd also been 
> looking at shamanic ideas of extracting souls to safeguard them during 
> critical moments in life, e.g., childbirth, illness, etc. What I was 
> looking for were hints that this shamanic conception had 
> entered/persisted in the grimoire tradition. But I fear Christianity 
> may have firmly nailed the soul to the cross of the body until one's 
> hour cometh, although that still leaves room for magicians to fix the 
> spirits of other things into various forms, one might suppose.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Leo
>
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> Dr Leo Ruickbie, PhD, MA, BA (Hons), AKC
> Author:
>
> */Witchcraft Out of the Shadows/* (Robert Hale, 2004; 2nd ed. forthcoming)
>
>     "/Witchcraft Out of the Shadows/ is an engaging book which
>     deserves to be the benchmark for all future analyses of the
>     Craft." - Alan Richardson
>
> */Faustus: The Life and Times of a Renaissance Magician/* (The History 
> Press, 2009)
>
>     "Dr Ruickbie has re-evaluated and contextualised the sources of
>     the Faust tradition from a position of authority. The result is a
>     work of meticulous scholarship that can be read as a gripping
>     page-turner." - Professor Osman Durrani
>
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