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Wonderful, thanks Dot, Hugh.

We'll be sure to follow up on both of these. The grant money is also
good to know about! :-)

Best

Leif

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Hugh Cayless <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hey Leif,
> This sounds pretty cool!  The state of the art, as far as I know in TEI, is
> to link lines in the text to rectangular areas in an image that encompass
> lines of written text.  TEI may not provide any straightforward way to do
> all of the things you want to encode:
>
> Would it be sufficient simply to provide
>
> annotations in the form of line number, point location, line, or
>
> polygon and their rotation relative to the horizontal?
>
> In particular, TEI doesn't really deal with coordinate systems, so the idea
> of transforms (like rotation, e.g.) just isn't there.  There was some
> discussion about encoding polygons, but I'm not sure it made it as far as a
> feature request.  I've been fooling around with SVG+TEI to do some of these
> things, but unless you're actually linking to an SVG, I'm not sure that's
> ideal.
> I'd encourage you to post to the Text & Graphics SIG
> (http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/SIG/Graphics/).  If TEI can't do what you
> want, we should figure out how to make it work and get it into the standard.
>  There's a little grant money available for SIGs this fall which could be
> spent on things like developing a proposal to encode RTI annotation metadata
> in TEI.  Just a thought.
> Hugh
> On Sep 21, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Dot Porter wrote:
>
> Hi Leif,
>
> You might take a look at TILE (http://tileproject.org), which is
> developing a fairly simple, schema-agnostic software for linking text
> with image of text (both semi-automated and manual), and image
> annotation. It's modular and plug-in-able, so potentially you could
> take it and modify as needed without having to build your own
> annotator from scratch  :-)  I gave a keynote on the TILE project at
> the 2009 DHSI at UVic, we've developed an alpha version since then but
> this presentation outlines our concerns, which would seem to be
> similar to your concerns, and a brief history of other tools:
> http://dhsi.org/blog/archives/50
>
> HTH,
> Dot
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Leif Isaksen <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
> As part of the RTISAD Project
>
> (http://www.southampton.ac.uk/archaeology/acrg/acrg_research_DEDEFI.html),
>
> which is applying Reflectance Transformation Imaging technologies to
>
> ancient resources, we would like to introduce the ability to annotate
>
> the RTI dataset. This will be structured so that it is possible to
>
> associate such annotations with the precise viewer settings (light
>
> angle, filters applied, etc.) at the time when the annotaiton was
>
> made. In this way it will be possible to bookmark these settings and
>
> enable subsequent viewers to identify the process of interpretation.
>
> For example, how a letter is seen when lit from a certain angle. The
>
> output will be TEI-compliant XML with embedded links to the RTI
>
> datasets, which in turn will be imported into other workflows/VREs.
>
> As a result it would be very helpful to know how researchers work with
>
> and reference images of text. Would it be sufficient simply to provide
>
> annotations in the form of line number, point location, line, or
>
> polygon and their rotation relative to the horizontal? Is there
>
> additional functionality which would increase its utility? We are keen
>
> not to replicate existing work on image annotation and to provide an
>
> annotation approach that is consistent with TEI.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Leif
>
>
>
>
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