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Thanks everyone,
I have really a lot to do now.
Jurgen,
yes I do separate the complex over size-exclusion column before setting trays.

Patrick,
Thanks for the wonderful reference.

Sivaram,
Thank you.It was really nice of you to send the link of your thesis.It is a wonderful gesture and I appreciate it.
Could you remember how dilute your IgG starting sample was and the time of dialysis prior to papain digestion?
Also could you elaborate a bit on how you specifically did the microseeding steps.
Having a glance on your thesis, I could not find these of the top.
Thanks again,


Ivan



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:35 AM, Patrick Shaw Stewart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Again you should read the spectacular paper by Obmolova and co. where they solved the structures of three Fab-antigen complexes using “MMS” microseeding (seeding into random screens), starting with one hit containing clusters of needles - which could not themselves be optimized

 

The paper is available on open access (free)

 

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2010/08/00/issconts.html

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2010/08/00/bw5361/bw5361.pdf

 

Acta Cryst. (2010). D66, 927-933  [ doi:10.1107/S0907444910026041 ]

Promoting crystallization of antibody-antigen complexes via microseed matrix screening

G. Obmolova, T. J. Malia, A. Teplyakov, R. Sweet and G. L. Gilliland

Synopsis: The application of microseed matrix screening to the crystallization of related antibodies in complex with IL-13 is described. Both self-seeding or cross-seeding helped promote nucleation and increase the hit rate.

Online 14 July 2010

The application of microseed matrix screening to the crystallization

of antibody–antigen complexes is described for a set

of antibodies that include mouse anti-IL-13 antibody C836, its

humanized version H2L6 and an affinity-matured variant of

H2L6, M1295. The Fab fragments of these antibodies were

crystallized in complex with the antigen human IL-13. The

initial crystallization screening for each of the three complexes

included 192 conditions. Only one hit was observed for H2L6

and none were observed for the other two complexes. Matrix

self-microseeding using these microcrystals yielded multiple

hits under various conditions that were further optimized to

grow diffraction-quality H2L6 crystals. The same H2L6 seeds

were also successfully used to promote crystallization of the

other two complexes. The M1295 crystals appeared to be

isomorphous to those of H2L6, whereas the C836 crystals were

in a different crystal form. These results are consistent with the

concept that the conditions that are best for crystal growth

may be different from those that favor nucleation. Microseed

matrix screening using either a self-seeding or cross-seeding

approach proved to be a fast, robust and reliable method not

only for the refinement of crystallization conditions but also to

promote crystal nucleation and increase the hit rate.

 

 

 

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of xaravich ivan
Sent: 10 September 2010 04:00
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [ccp4bb] Fab purification and crystallization

 

Hi CCP4bb,

I have two questions regarding Fab purification and Fab-antigen complex crystallization and would really appreciate any input from the experienced board.

1) I have got some hits for Fab-antigen complex (150 kD) but they are all needle clusters. Whatever fine screen I formulate, it always gives me these needle clusters. Are there some better common ways to change needles to single crystals?

2) I have certain IgGs from which I purify the Fab by papain digestion (resin from ThermoSci). One of the first steps is to dialyze the IgG with the digestion buffer,( 20mM Na-phosphate and 10mM EDTA pH 7.0) Over night. I always get 30-60% of the IgG precipitated during this overnight dialysis. I tried to increase the salt by adding 200mM NaCl but of no effect. Have anyone experienced such problem? Is there any thing that could be tried to stop this precipitation.

thanks in advance.

ivan