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Indeed - particularly in the fields of Sales and Marketing companies have been known to require that their employees engage in social networking ... otherwise, the companies are not benefiting from "hand-selling," and can't evaluate how well their marketeers relate to others. Being compelled to "put on a smiley face," as it were, even in their private lives. All the more reason to actively legislate against this type of intrusion of corporations into the private lives of individuals during their leisure time. -D On Wed 25/08/10 10:36 AM , "Taylor, Carl" [log in to unmask] sent: There is an interesting flip-side to this which I heard on R4 recently: if potential employers check you out on Facebook and find that you haven’t EVER done anything at all naughty or adventurous that you wish to share with friends and the world they may think there’s something wrong with you! Photos of you on your home-page, half-naked and barely conscious, smothered in curry, demonstrate the kind of gregarious nature a lot of employers are looking for. Although I’m sure it doesn’t apply to Records Managers, where sociopath – ism and inhibition are obviously welcome traits … Carl ------------------------- From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David T. Macknet Sent: 25 August 2010 09:47 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Saving Jobseekers from Themselves: New Law to Stop Companies from Checking Facebook Pages in Germany There are, however, some radical differences between the context of being "down at the pub" and having your employer deliberately visit that same pub, with the express intent of learning things about you. Within the social networking context, and in FaceBook in particular, there is an expectation (however unfounded) of some degree of privacy. The question shouldn't be, "can people use this against people," but, "is this the type of world we'd like to live in, where there isn't an equivalent of 'keeping indiscretions for when one is on holiday'?" The underlying problem is that of there being no geographical isolation, in social networks. This is a dual-edged sword, and we must come to terms with it, in some way, or else simply opt not to live in that world, to not participate in it. For some, that "coming to terms" has meant that they simply accept that they have no privacy. For others, it means that they self-censor. For still others, they drop out. None of those solutions is an ideal one, which is what Germany has attempted to address, via legislation. Best, -David On Wed 25/08/10 8:39 AM , "Gadsden Anne (RNL) North Cumbria University Hospitals" [log in to unmask] sent: Social networking is indeed here to stay, and people will always do and say foolish things both on websites and down the pub on a Friday or Saturday night. Anyone who has lived in a small community (as I had the privilege of doing for 7 years) will know that your every move is watched and commented on, and every indiscretion noted. It gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling to know that people cared about me, but at the same time made me very careful to keep any vaguely naughty behaviour for my trips to the mainland, where I could be more anonymous, and where any of my potential employers on the island could remain in blissful ignorance of what I might get up to. I feel that social networking sites are the same - it has allowed us to create lovely supportive communities for ourselves, but of course any indiscretions are best kept away from public gaze if we don't want to risk potential or future jobs. In my experience, most people using these sites are quite canny, and careful not only with the security settings they apply, but also with what they choose to put up. I can't see how you could stop potential employers from having a quick look for any information they can find on an individual, and people will make judgements whether they see you on facebook, or on Cromwell Street on a rainy Friday night in Stornoway. Anne Anne Gadsden, Information Governance Officer Direct Line: 01228 602186 Fax: 01228 634022 [log in to unmask] ------------------------- From: The UK Records Management mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jen Parker Sent: 24 August 2010 19:17 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Saving Jobseekers from Themselves: New Law to Stop Companies from Checking Facebook Pages in Germany - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International I despair at that comment. And we hear it time and time again. Social networking (in its many forms) is here to stay; it’s very much a part of the ongoing evolving internet revolution, being used by individuals and industry alike. The subject of online privacy is one that extends well beyond Facebook. Are we going to keep saying “The internet is a public place, you deserve what you get” ? It's missing the point, i feel. What about treating users with respect? That means acknowledging privacy, to my mind, not ignoring it. The internet and privacy are not mutually exclusive. That mindset has to change. I imagine it's a case of 'when', and not 'if'. Suggesting half a billion people (or whatever the actual statistic is) just abstein, is to ignore the wider, pressing debate. ------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:07:28 +0100 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Saving Jobseekers from Themselves: New Law to Stop Companies from Checking Facebook Pages in Germany - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International To: [log in to unmask] The answer is so simple. DON'T HAVE A SOCIAL NETWORK ENTRY Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: PeterK To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:15 PM Subject: Saving Jobseekers from Themselves: New Law to Stop Companies from Checking Facebook Pages in Germany - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International Saving Jobseekers from Themselves: New Law to Stop Companies from Checking Facebook Pages in Germany - According to a 2009 survey commissioned by the website CareerBuilder, some 45 percent of employers use social networking sites to research job candidates. 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