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Couldn't have put it better myself. Do they think we run "mickey mouse" exams for other awarding bodies? Nicola Jones Senior Officer Assessments and Achievements Neath Port Talbot college 01639 648046 ________________________________ From: The FE Exams Network mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Francis, Kevin Sent: 05 August 2010 16:06 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Construction Health & Safety Tests Couldn't agree more with the lack of consideration from IIBT to centres in bringing this in.... Issues for us: * The precedent that this is setting amongst awarding bodies, not to accept the security arrangements of centres. * Requirement to have webcam drivers installed on many single PC's around the college - as we use one of possibly fifteen rooms for the tests. * The increased overhead - in allowing invigilators roughly 3 to 5mins per person for photo admin time to each session. Nearly ½ hour to 45 mins extra invigilation costs per session???? + The costs of having camera's for each site and a spare. For us possibly 6@£70. * Unnecessary duplication of process through lack of acknowledgement of centres who do already photograph learners as part of their enrolment systems. * Increased possibility of technical failure. Is there enough feeling on this matter to write a combined letter of complaint ? Regards Kevin Francis From: The FE Exams Network mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janice Tweed Sent: 05 August 2010 2:04 pm To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Construction Health & Safety Tests This is the info I got from Daniel Cooper at Cskills: "We are bringing the private centre up to standard with the fixed public centres around the country. There have been increasing numbers of fraud and we are now going to be taking an image of the candidates before they take the test so we can confirm that it is the same person who then applies for the card. You'll only need the one web-cam. The image capture is a separate process. What should happen is that they will sit down in front of the machine with the web-cam enter there login's for the photo to be allocated against and have there photo taken. They would then go to there testing machine and login as they do know to take there test. This way all your candidates have there photos taken before they start there test." Janice Tweed Examinations Manager West Suffolk College ________________________________ From: The FE Exams Network mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rich, Sue Sent: 05 August 2010 12:05 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Construction Health & Safety Tests Hi We have been running these tests for the last couple of years. The annual £500 fee was one thing but the cameras seems totally over the top - particularly as we are a College and don't take external candidates. They are also asking for 2mb quality cameras which are about £70 for the cheapest ones! We only use 1.3mb for our College ID cards and they are much cheaper and perfectly good. I am still trying to get hold of Chris Little again to see if they will at least allow lesser spec cameras. It might help if other centres try to put pressure on too to see if anything can be done. Sue Rich Information Services Manager Bedford College 01234 239360 ________________________________ From: The FE Exams Network mailing list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janice Tweed Sent: 05 August 2010 10:26 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Construction Health & Safety Tests Hello Is anybody renewing their contract to run the IIBT Health & Safety online tests on site? We've been running these for our students since 2006 with few problems but with the new contract not only are Construction Skills asking for a £500 annual fee but we have to have webcams so they can take a photo of candidates before they take the test! Our teaching staff are insisting we renew the contract - I just wondered if any of you are renewing. Janice Tweed Examinations Manager West Suffolk College 01284 716350 ________________________________ SAVE A TREE - Please consider the environment and do not print this email unless you really need to! Email the way you want it - scanned for viruses and unwanted content by the Email Protection Agency <http://www.epagency.net/email_filtering_services.htm> ________________________________ SAVE A TREE - Please consider the environment and do not print this email unless you really need to! 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