My view is that many requests are dealt
with informally, people in our kinds of jobs never hear about them, and that’s that.
Legally, every request is one or the other. If there is any dispute or
question, even if the applicant says they don’t want it to be dealt with under
a specific piece of legislation, I’m going to make up my mind and apply the
appropriate principles.
If legal action is ongoing, it’s still DP
/ FOI / EIR – the formal legal route is an alternative, and there are
exemptions in DP and FOI which would cover that.
Tim
Tim Turner
NHS Manchester
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Tim,
Just to check. If the applicant says I do not want this under foi or dp or foi,
would that still apply?
Could an applicant be given non personal information confidentially (not under
foi dp or eir) and then be bound by a duty of confidence?
Also, if they ask for through legal channels (pre discovery), is it still
foi/dp or eir.
Or neither? :)
I would go the dp route and keep it as clear as possible because the situation
is already problematic.
Best
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Public authorities subject to FOI are not
legally entitled to answer “neither unless the request is verbal and not for
environmental data – we might do this a lot of the time, but in principle, even
a verbal request for non-environmental information might engage the FOI duty to
provide advice and assistance. So a written request for information made by a
member of the public is either FOI, EIR, or DP. It cannot be anything else. A
verbal request for personal data might dodge Section 7, but anyone asking this
kind of question is probably going to cause pain one way or the other, so it’s
better to go down the right legal track than further infuriate the already
infuriated requester.
So, to give my answer to Brenda’s
question, I agree that DP is the route. You wouldn’t tell anyone else this
information, if recorded.
Tim Turner
NHS Manchester
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I think it is neither, or either, but I don;t really mind.
I think is is Customer Service.
On 25 Aug 2010, at 16:25,
If some asks for
1) The number of times I have rung your office
2) The number of times your officers have visited me
Is this DP or FOI ? I think DP because I cannot ask how many times my neighbour
has rung the office or how many times an officer has visited him. If I had
suspicions he was being investigated by one of our depts an answer of none or
12 would supply me with personal data.
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