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The idea is creating and using Open Hardware (similar to Linux, but also applied to hardware). There are some Open Hardware Foundation, but mainly in the computer hardware realm. We need a Open Renewable Energy Hardware Foundation and Wiki site, to encourage technology that can be used in the third world (and also in the first, as the solar guerrilla and electric buses). Regards 2010/8/7, A&M Meikle <[log in to unmask]>: > Yes, copyright, one of the scourges. How did Linux get around that? I assume > there are no patents involved and the whole idea was never seen as serious > competition to MS and Apple but am not up on it. > > Mandy > > http://mandymeikle.wordpress.com/ > _________________________ > > "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most > intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." > - Charles Darwin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Keene > To: A&M Meikle > Cc: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: Coalition of the willing > > > Someone from Denmark sent it me on Facebook, and I sent it around lots of > lists with a comment that it was very much like the collaboration to find > the most practical ways of delivering zero carbon leisure that we are > carrying out with the zero carbon world concert. > > I can't remember if I sent it to Crisis Forum. But in case I didn't you > can contribute your ideas on zero carbon leisure at our website > www.zerocarbonconcert at the bottom of the page 'Organise a concert' or join > the email list by sending an email to > [log in to unmask] (note the double 'zz') with > subject SUBSCRIBE. > > There must be lots of people out there with some ideas on how to generate > electricity from bicycles etc etc > > But I think a problem with this approach is where it runs into > intellectual property rights. The Chinese are complaining that we are > hindering their efforts to develop renewable energy because western > corporations hold the patents. > > Not only that, they deliberately use patents to block research into things > that threaten their vested interests. I've got an article by Chris Moreton > from the Centre for Alternative Technology which includes the following > "the companies that are designing the more advanced batteries are being > bought out by the oil companies. The patent for the NiMH batteries is no > longer available, one design was bought by a company named Cobasys who are > owned by Chevron. They shelved the design so that the batteries can no > longer be made." > > Chris > > On 06/08/2010 17:25, A&M Meikle wrote: > Apologies if this has done the rounds - it's an excellent animation > (15min film on using the internet to tackle climate change a la Open Source, > Wikipedia etc). There's a link here - > http://www.darkoptimism.org/2010/07/22/coalition-of-the-willing/. Shame the > focus seems to be on reducing carbon rather than energy demand. > > Mandy > > http://mandymeikle.wordpress.com/ > _________________________ > > "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most > intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." > - Charles Darwin > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 > 19:23:00 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3054 - Release Date: 08/06/10 > 08:37:00 > -- Lista de correo sobre vehículos eléctricos, Universidad de Murcia. https://listas.um.es/sympa/info/vehiculoselectricos Electric mass transport and bicycle group based on climate justice http://groups.google.com/group/epublictransit