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Hi Martin My personal view/experience: Ground investigation forms a part of site investigation. Site investigation principles apply to ecology, archaeology, geotechnics etc. Yes, "ground Investigation" describes the process of investigating the ground, groundwater and surface waters by; boreholes, probeholes, trial pits, in situ testing, sampling, non-intrusive investigation (geophysics etc), laboratory testing, monitoring etc? Yes, it does matter what terminology is used and no it isn't being pedantic because there is need to avoid confusion/mis-understanding. Kind regards Ruth Ruth Willcox Environmental Protection Officer (Land Quality) Plymouth City Council Public Protection - Floor 6 Civic Centre City Centre PLYMOUTH Devon PL1 2AA Tel: 01752 304154 Fax: 01752 226314 Email: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Contaminated Land Management Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Martin Fairlie Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 6:30 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: BS 10175 revised draft - Terminology, Consistency & Clarity: - What are your views? Dear Jiscmail list, BS 10175 revised draft - Terminology, Consistency & Clarity: - What are your views? I shall be recording / reporting for Environmental Protection (UK) at the draft BS 10175 Consultation Workshop on 18th August at Arup's Midlands Campus, Solihull, B90 8AE. I would therefore greatly appreciate your views on the following. The following terms are used throughout the draft Code of Practice: * "site investigation"; * "ground investigation" and; * "field investigation". Do they all mean different things? Do they, should they, mean different, specific, things? BS 5930 "Code of practice for site investigations", although partly superseded, says: "In this code, the expression "site investigation" has been used in its wider sense. It is often used elsewhere in a narrow sense to describe the exploration of the ground, which in this code has been termed "ground investigation"." The "yellow specification" the Specification for Ground Investigation, 1993, published by Thomas Telford Services Ltd refers to GI not SI. The ICE Conditions of Contract: Ground Investigation Version, 2nd edition, 2003, published by Thomas Telford Services Ltd refers to GI not SI. However, CLR 11 mostly talks about SI, only referring to GI on a couple of occasions. However, references to SI seem to be in the specific context of GI as defined below. Is a "site investigation" more wide ranging than a "ground investigation"? Is a "ground investigation" only one part of a "site investigation"? Does, should, a "site investigation" include such things as: ecology, archaeology, transportation, access, services, flooding, due diligence, environmental impact assessments, climate change etc? Does, should, a "ground Investigation" describe the process of investigating the ground, groundwater and surface waters by; boreholes, probeholes, trial pits, in situ testing, sampling, non-intrusive investigation (geophysics etc), laboratory testing, monitoring etc? Does it matter what terminology we use? Is this being pedantic? Should we be clear, precise and consistent on our terminology to avoid confusion, mis-understandings throughout the industry / within individual documents etc? I would greatly appreciate your views. Thank you, Martin Fairlie ******************************************************************************************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This e-mail (including any attachments to it) is strictly confidential and intended solely for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential or sensitive information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy or distribute it to any other person or take any action in reliance. If you have received it in error, please notify your system manager and the sender as soon as possible and then delete it from your system.