I was ok with suggestions that we go for the lowest costs (including zero) that we can so that people can sign up and go from there.
I'm aware that other people may feel / think differently but thought it was important to say.
I like the suggestion of another organisation running along side the BPS section for all the people who dont qualify for bps membership and those of us who do but who might / or won't want to join especially if we are going to have publications like the SCRA one, cant remember its name but it was very informative and open about what was happening in relation to practice.
Also I want all of the people I work with to be able to join and I like the suggestion of a co-operative especially a non-hierarchical style of co-operative led and run by its members as then we can all put energy into making this work together.
Can't say hand on heart I've read everything thats been posted cos am busy with other stuff but would like this to be a simple process.
Cheers
Jacx
> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:46:22 +0100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Direct approach to BPS Committee
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Paul Duckett wrote:
> > I would advise that no one should contact the BPS and ask them to set
> > a fee for the CP Section and no one should take it upon themselves to
> > decide to act on behalf of the list/network in this matter (or any
> > other matter) without the list agreeing.
> >
> > At present nobody has got a mandate (as far as I am aware) to speak on
> > behalf of anyone else. So, no one can either speak for the
> > list/network or speak for BPS members who signed up in support of
> > establishing a CP section. This is the whole point about delaying
> > things and seeking to set up a cooperative first to give our network
> > some structure and accountability (we can't demand anyone be held to
> > account for why a fee structure for the section hasn't been decided
> > upon earlier because there is no organisation to our network and so
> > nobody is in an organisational role that can hold them to account to
> > members of the list).
> >
> > Once a cooperative is established list members and BPS members can
> > join and use the cooperative to start a full discussion about how the
> > CP section might work and to reach a decision that is accountable to
> > all members of the cooperative (setting up the BPS section does not
> > only affect BPS members, it affects those not in the BPS as it affects
> > the nature of the social ties between people in our network and
> > changes the face of CP in the UK) If we establish a cooperative for
> > ourselves we have the opportunity to create a space where we can seek
> > to flatten out social hierachies and seek to prevent anyone pulling
> > rank on others based on academic creditentials, professional identity
> > or membership of groups external to the cooperative.(I'm not only
> > referring to the BPS here but more broader group membership such as
> > gender, class, sexuality, race and so on). Becoming a cooperative can
> > also make our decision making processes fair, transparent and
> > accountable and we can seek to ensure nobody dominates cooperative
> > proceedings without being invited to do so.
> >
> > I think it would be a dreadful for the section to start by either
> > jumping to a rushed, arbitary decision on fees or to permit (or worse,
> > ask) the BPS to decide the sections fees for us. The BPS CP section
> > will be viewed quite sceptically by some CP network members (and
> > future members) who might accuse the section of being a servant to the
> > whims and wishes of the BPS. If we allow ourselves to rush into a
> > decision on fees and cowtow to the BPS so soon and so dramatically, it
> > could severely stymie the section as it could not defend itself
> > against critique.
> >
> > I also find the accusations being made against some list members of
> > being immature and incompetent to be ill-tempered, inconsiderate and
> > unhelpful and likely to be unpersuasive on a list such as this.
> >
> > p
> >
> >
>
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