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Yes, Tim, I get Good Bok Days too :) On 30 August 2010 10:06, Tim Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Ignore below. I take it all back. I've just got by BÖK of the Bok shelf and > dipped into it again and found myself laughing and being impressed. I might > have to have a complete rethink. But then I'd probably read it the next day > and think the same as I did below. Strange stuff this appreciation lark > isn't it. > > Tim A. > > > On 30 Aug 2010, at 09:58, Tim Allen wrote: > > On 30 Aug 2010, at 07:21, David Bircumshaw wrote: >> >> If I can hazard something here (i.e. not make any claim to a defining >>> statement) I suspect that it could be possible to consider Christian Bok and >>> Carol Ann Duffy as occupying analogous cultural positions in that each is a >>> fairly representative instance of a poet adopted by the managerial >>> structures in their own regional cultures. >>> >> >> Wow David. >> >>> That is to suggest that Duffy's social realism lite and Bok's recycled >>> Oulipo perform (or have performed in recent years) very much the same kind >>> of function locally. >>> >> >> I really like your phrase 'social realism lite' - perfect. Bok's 'recycled >> Oulipo' is also a pretty perfect way of putting it, though perhaps a little >> unfair, - that's not perfect is it? . I admit I have trouble with EUNOIA, >> not because it has been so successful (though I hope that isn't some sort of >> subconscious reason on my part) but because I just don't think it works - it >> isn't all that good. It is fun, yes, but the fun soon turns to boredom. The >> bits that work, that vibrate, are too few and far between - it lacks >> Oulipo's sparkle and charm and, more importantly, its lasting quality - but >> I admit this is difficult to pin down. The most extraordinary thing about it >> however is still the fact that it was picked up on, then praised by people >> who we know have heaped insult after insult on similar but superior stuff. >> >> Mad mad world. >> >> Cheers >> >> Tim A. >> > -- (David Joseph) The Brothers Bircumshaw "Every old house was scaffolding once/And workmen whistling" Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/