HI, I’m not an expert on BREEAM but
I thought that it was a voluntary code.
Isn’t there an argument that if it
doesn’t acknowledge that the standard they’re asking for isn’t
possible in accessible toilets because the equipment isn’t available yet
that, firstly, the standard they’ve set is wrong (at least in that one
area) and, secondly, a funding body should therefore allow some flexibility because
of that?
Paul
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Behalf Of Hunt, Alan
Sent: 05 August 2010 08:46
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Subject: Re: [ACCESSIBUILT] Dual
flush toilets
Unfortunately it is not that simple with BREEAM.......
the equipment has to be dual flush and permenant....... I have found dual flush
cisterns and syphons with levers but non of them perform to the BREEAM Bespoke
standard which is that the dual flush has to be a max of 4.5ltr/2.6ltr..... all
the cisterns/syphons/vales to which you can attach a lever handle or proximity
sensor exceed this..... Armitage shanks make an adaptor kit to convert from
press button to lever but it does not conform to BREEAM or even other
regulations and they don't recommend using it???? .... I am now looking
at an armitage shanks option which involves large push pads which can be
remotely sited eg on an adjacent wall........ BREEAM is very proscriptive and
even though we are using harvested rainwater to flush all the loos there is no
scope to relax the BREEAM requirement for the dual flush
...... never a dull momen.......
alan
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From: Accessibuilt list on behalf of Séamus Grogan
Sent: Wed 04/08/2010 20:21
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Subject: Re: Dual flush toilets
I have to agree with Vin West..the litre bottle or the "2lb jam jar"
in the
cistern.... cheap, simple, universal and sustainable!!
Regards,
Séamus Grogan
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On Behalf Of
helen kane
Sent: 04 August 2010 19:29
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Subject: Re: Dual flush toilets
Alan,
Took me ages to source the dudley lever. Photo attached, to prove it
exists.
Helen
> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:22:06 +0100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Dual flush toilets
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Hi everybody
>
> does anyone know if there is such a thing as a dual flush cistern or
syphon or valve which can be lever operated to conform to BREEAM Bespoke
standard? The only thing preventing our authority achieving this standard at
the moment in a new youth centre (and the standard is a requirement of the
funding) is the toilet in the accessible cubicle. As far as I have been able
to discover the only options available use push buttons on the cistern
rather than a lever and although there are dual flush syphons which can be
lever operated I have failed to find one which has a 3 litre or less flush.
>
> Any ideas greatfully appreciated.
>
> It may be possible to utilise a push pad on the wall or side /front of the
cistern but without seeing examples it is difficult to know if they would be
of any use...
>
> many thanks
> alan
>
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