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Many thanks, george! 2010/8/14 George Hansen <[log in to unmask]> > Of possible relevance-- > > Luhrmann, T.M. (1989). The magic of secrecy. Ethos, 17, pp. 131-165. > > > > George P. Hansen > > Author: The Trickster and the Paranormal > http://www.tricksterbook.com > > http://paranormaltrickster.blogspot.com/ > > https://twitter.com/ParaTrickster > > > > > > --- On *Fri, 8/13/10, Sebastián <[log in to unmask]>* wrote: > > > From: Sebastián <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] About magic and secret > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Friday, August 13, 2010, 3:45 PM > > > Actually I am from Argentina, hehe. Although yes, I am learning some > portuguese. > > It's good to hear that you are separating both concepts "silence" and > "secret", because I came across with that issue and I have not solve it yet. > > > As I stated a few threads ago, I have recently got my Anthropology degree > in which I reached through my thesis about self-knowledge and spirituality > in the context of "Movimiento Cristiano Gnóstico Universal", founded by > Samael Aum Weor. > > On the other hand, I was curious about the concept of secret and silence in > magical orders and I am working on a paper about it, even though I had to > put it off in order to focus on my thesis. I am glad that you are interested > in these subjects too. > > > See you around > > > S. > > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Francisco Mendonça, Jr <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > Hi, Sebástian! > > Do you speak Portuguese? That's not a very common thing, you > know...hehehe...Many thanks for your interest! When I talk about secret in > relation with magic, I am thinking more preciselly in the care of protecting > a information of non-iniciated people. For sure, it could involve silence, > but not necessarilly. The *Steganographia*, of Abbot Trithemius, have as > its central goal the transmission of secrets at long distance using spirits. > The real message is put under a fake one, but it is a said action. The magus > have to say the real message to the spirit, and this one repeat the message > to the receiver, but in the both ends of this process it's necessary the > correct realization of rituals to access the spirit. So, the silence could > be part of the secret, but not necessarilly both of them are the same thing. > I am using the idea of secret of Michel Senellart, that means, secret is a > thing that could be said to anyone, but has to be understood just by the > iniciated in the arts of decrypting the levels of it. I get curious about > your subject of research. Could you tell me about it? Keep in touch. > > Best regards > > Francisco > > > -- > Francisco de Paula Souza de Mendonça Júnior > Historiador / Historian > Medievalista / Medievalist > Doutorando em História e Culturas Políticas/UFMG > Ph.D. in Progress in History and Political Cultures / UFMG > Mestre em História e Culturas Políticas/UFMG > Master in History and Political Cultures/UFMG > [log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> > [log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> > kirijy@hotmail > http://lattes.cnpq.br/6177272366272480 > > > > > -- > "Your conscience is the measure of the honesty of your selfishness. Listen > to it carefully". > > -Richard Bach, The > Messiah's Handbook. Ilusions- > > > -- Francisco de Paula Souza de Mendonça Júnior Historiador / Historian Medievalista / Medievalist Doutorando em História e Culturas Políticas/UFMG Ph.D. in Progress in History and Political Cultures / UFMG Mestre em História e Culturas Políticas/UFMG Master in History and Political Cultures/UFMG [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] kirijy@hotmail http://lattes.cnpq.br/6177272366272480