from a personal point of view - my mum has been attending beauty colleges as a customer and she completes a disclaimer asking relevent medical conditions and signs this stating she is happy to go ahead with the treatment. 

I have also attended a couple of times and they ask skin type and any medical conditions and sign the completed form. 

If they have any concerns the treatments are not completed 




 

 

tracey 

 




Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 22:38:12 +0100
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What a waste of a GPs time (and the individual’s money) to provide the letter referred to. With all due respect to most of my medical colleagues they are no better placed to comment on the side effects of the therapies listed below than the therapist who is giving the treatment. I can see rationale behind a treatment such as massages involving deep lymphatic drainage being  contraindicated in someone with cancer but am not sure if there is any concern between the therapies listed and hypo-hypertheroid function. Where is the evidence anyway? Seems to me that the college is just trying to cover their backs. Agree with  Alan’s stance – if the therapist is unsure whether the therapy is safe then they shouldn’t be doing it!



Anne





On 5/7/10 21:58, "Alan" <<a href="/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind1007%26L%3DOCC-HEALTH%26E%3Dquoted-printable%26P%3D2028062%26B%3D--_152b878d-4dde-41f0-90ce-653d458056a9_%26T%3Dtext%252Fplain%3B%2520charset%3DWindows-1252%26attachment%3Dq" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>> wrote:



I agree - therapists must take responsibility for what they do.



GPs are not equipped with the knowledge to advise on these matters ( "Face and Body Electrical Treatments; Electrolysis" - what current, what voltage, wet electrodes or not?  I seem to remember that the electrical resistance is proportional to the surface area of the electrode). 



Surely if you are unsure whether what you are doing is safe, you're not safe to be doing it?





Alan...  who would not voice an opinion on these questions, even if you did book an appointment with me







Mark O'Connor wrote: 

 

Therapist should have appropriate training and indemnity for what they profess to be able to offer.

 



 

 

If information is required from the medical record then it should be requested with consent and will attract a fee. There is a difference between requesting a factual copy of the record and seeking an opinion from the GP .

 



 

 

That list looks odd and seems to me to have been constructed by someone/s with inadequate medical grounding and poor business sense as to exclude a significant percentage of the population ( and the groups as someone else pointed out are perhaps more likely to seek such treatments in the first place ). Looks like a blanket discrimination as well which is probably in breach of the parts of the DDA that we in OH do not deal with often

 



 

 

GP appointments are unfiltered so next time you find it difficult or inconvenient to see your GP that last appointment that would have rally suited you might just have gone to tosh like this

 



 

 

Mark 

 

On 5 Jul 2010, at 11:32, Nicola Johns <<a href="/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?LOGON=A3%3Dind1007%26L%3DOCC-HEALTH%26E%3Dquoted-printable%26P%3D2028062%26B%3D--_152b878d-4dde-41f0-90ce-653d458056a9_%26T%3Dtext%252Fplain%3B%2520charset%3DWindows-1252%26attachment%3Dq" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a>> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 



Hi All,

 

 

 

This may be a strange request however I would be grateful of your thoughts on the following:

 

 

 

I work at a FE College where the treatments listed below are offered, up until now clients attending for treatments and students attending courses who give and receive treatments to and from each other have been asked to provide a letter from their GP stating they are able to take part in these treatments; if they have any of the contra-indications listed below, this is the list the staff have provided me with. For a number of reasons including GP’s aren’t happy to provide the letters and students/clients are charged for these letters, all of which I understand, this process has been made very difficult for staff.

 

 

 

Treatments offered include: Swedish Body Massage; Reflexology; Aromatherapy; Indian Head Massage; Face and Body Electrical Treatments; Electrolysis; Facials with Face, Neck and Shoulder Massage; Manicures, with Hand and Arm Massage; Pedicures with Foot and Leg Massage

 

 

 

Contra-indications as listed by staff:

 

Cancer

 

Epilepsy

 

Diabetes

 

Scoliosis

 

Pregnancy

 

Heart problems

 

Thyroid conditions

 

Psychological disorders 

 

High or low blood pressure

 

Recent operations

 

Dysfunction of the nervous system (multiple sclerosis)

 

Spastic condition

 

Varicose veins

 

Recent haemorrhage

 

Severe digestive, kidney, scalp, circulatory and skin disorders

 

Allergies 

 

 

 

I’d be grateful for any thoughts or ideas anyone has, I am looking at a disclaimer, with the individual being advised of the contra-indications and signing to say they are happy to engage in these activities after speaking with their GP, obviously checking this out with liability insurance. As we are classed as a training organisation I am keen to support staff with this query.

 

 

 

All comments gratefully accepted. Many thanks as always.

 

 

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

Nicky Johns

 

 

 

01656 302488

 

07791 339 272

 

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