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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Perhaps the ambiguity is precisely the point? Hollywood = Babylon ? Meg ________________________________ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture on behalf of John Briggs Sent: Fri 7/16/2010 10:18 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] glamor of evil medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Yes, but are you talking about the Glamour of Evil or the Evil of Glamour? You probably do have access to the OED - try "library card login" accessed via your public library website. John Briggs On 16/07/2010 12:02, Anne Willis wrote: > From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious > culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Richard Kay > Sent: 15 July 2010 20:40 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [M-R] glamor of evil > > > > >Do let us know if you discover why "glamor" won out over "attractions" > or "seductions." > > > > I would say because 'glamour' (sorry, I'm English) includes 'attractions' or > seductions'. > > > > I don't have access to the full OED, but my concise version talks of > 'physical attractiveness when achieved by make-up etc'; (i.e. things aren't > quite what they seem); alluring or exciting beauty or charm; to enchant, > bewitch. It gives the derivation from 'grammar' as an 18th century variant > 'with reference to occult practices associated with learning in the middles > ages'. > > > > Chambers Concise Dictionary talks of 'allure; magnetism; an excitingly or > fascinatingly attractive quality; groomed beauty and studied charm'. > > > > In all 'glamour' does seem to describe the overall fascination of evil. > > > > > > Anne ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html