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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear All Marjorie’s right about the original dedication of Ss Apostoli, built between 556 and 574 and said to commemorate the Byzantine expulsion of the Goths from Rome in 554. This may have been only about half a century after the destruction of the Martyrium at Hierapolis in Phrygia, the Byzantine basilica supposedly built around the shrine of Philip. There is a recent illustrated account of the relics at Ss Apostoli and Philip’s skull relic near Pathos in Cyprus at http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2009/11/fate-of-relics-of-apostle-philip.html Though May 1 is explained as a dedication feast of Ss Apostoli, it may be that it was also meant to deal with the awkward veneration of two apostles in late April. Philip was commemorated on April 22 in the earliest lists (the Jerome Martyrology noted May 1 as the day of his depositio), and James the Lord’s Brother on April 25 (though also variously on March 15 and December 27). In the East, Philip is commemorated on November 14 (the 17th in Armenia) and James the Brother of Jesus on October 23. I’m comfortable with fourth-quarter-of-the-month Western apostolic feasts, but still don’t have a firm handle on the evolution and explanation of feast dates in the Eastern churches. Can colleagues point me in useful directions? Best wishes Graham From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marjorie Greene Sent: 26 July 2010 16:45 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 25. July redux medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Graham, Thanks. I should have remembered that Ss. Apostoli in Rome is dedicated to Philip and James - I think. Their relics are supposedly in the pseudo-catacomb crypt. MG Marjorie Greene http://medrelart.shutterfly.com/ --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Graham Jones <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: From: Graham Jones <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 25. July redux To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 6:48 AM medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Marjorie You’re right about the small number of dedications in honour of James the Less on his own: a handful in England and Wales and one in Scotland. However, there are at least 18 ancient churches in England at which James is venerated together with Philip. Their traditional joint feast day in the West, May 1, was popular with pastoral communities for the start of summer grazing. Best wishes Graham From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marjorie Greene Sent: 26 July 2010 06:46 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 25. July redux medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Let me amend my question and add "in the Middle Ages" to it. There are dozens of churches under the patronage of St J the L in the US and elsewhere now. MG p.s. May I append a note about the medrelart share site to this post. It is wholly unruly now and even I can't find easily certain albums I know are there. I plan to subdivide it into pages, which will be clearly labeled. And may I add my pictures of Compostela to those listed by John. I recently added a picture of the Portico de la Gloria sent by a friend. Marjorie Greene http://medrelart.shutterfly.com/ --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Marjorie Greene <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: From: Marjorie Greene <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Re: [M-R] saints of the day 25. July To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 5:39 AM medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Perhaps because of the suffixes "the Great" or "Major" appended to Saint James of today's saints, the other James, "the Less" or "Minor," seems to have virtually no churches, abbeys, etc under his patronage. The material on him on the web is sparse indeed. Does anyone know of a church, etc dedicated to him? 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