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Yes, but I'm suggesting that this example shows that the incidental
details can't be relied on either.
("Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude
to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.")
John Briggs
On 19/07/2010 21:27, Madeleine Gray wrote:
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> Well, no, but it's often the incidental details that are useful.
> As in a lot of Finucane's work.
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> Maddy
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> Dr Madeleine Gray
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> I would suggest that what we read in miracle stories should not be taken
> as, er, Gospel...
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> John Briggs
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> On 19/07/2010 21:07, Madeleine Gray wrote:
>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
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>> I've picked up on this after being away. Does your
>> 'secundum loci illius consuetudinem'
>> imply a specifically Welsh practice - it's not something I'd come across but I can ask around.
>>
>> Maddy
>>
>> Dr Madeleine Gray
>> Reader in History
>> School of Education/Ysgol Addysg
>> University of Wales, Newport/Prifysgol Cymru, Casnewydd
>> Caerleon Campus/Campws Caerllion,
>> Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3QT Tel: +44 (0)1633.432675
>>
>> 'We are not bound to win but we are bound to be true' (Barack Obama)
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>> From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture on behalf of susan ridyard
>> Sent: Fri 16/07/2010 8:08 PM
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>> Subject: [M-R] burial practices -- more context
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>> Dear all
>> More context -- I was trying to spare you too much detail in the
>> first instance. The evidence comes from descriptions of a miracle in
>> which a young boy fell from a bridge and drowned. Initially there
>> was some uncertainty about what to do and some people suggested that
>> "manus et pedes ipsius Willelmi coniungerentur et ligarentur et
>> apponeretur, secundum loci illius consuetudinem, prope murum, et
>> uigilaretur circa eum per total noctem et prepararetur sepultura".
>> The place -- English/Welsh border, the parish of New Radnor; the date 1305.
>>
>> Apologies for being unclear first time round.
>>
>> Sue
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>>
>> Thanks Marjorie for your thoughts. I should have specified the
>> context, which is early C14 England. The idea seems to be not that
>> the corpse would be buried by the wall but placed by a wall with
>> hands and feet tied while funeral preparations were made.
>>
>> Sue
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>>
>> 'm sure I should have been able to find this information easily, but
>> have failed to do so. Has anyone encountered a practice in which a
>> corpse is placed next to a wall with hands and feet bound in
>> preparation for burial?
>>
>> Sue
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