Hallo Christoph, > It seems that the WMS recovered itself (being in > drain mode) over the weekend. The WMS is full of Conder jobs in state > "H" (hold). Do they harm? Some are weeks old already. Normally held jobs do not harm, but the latest WMS version has an issue for which the admin may need to intervene occasionally: https://savannah.cern.ch/bugs/?69841 A cleanup cron job for held jobs is included in this bug: https://savannah.cern.ch/bugs/?70401 The grace period of 1 week probably should be lowered to 1 day, or even just a few hours... > Another question, perhaps someone know the answer. Trying to get some > understanding of the flow of a job through the WMS, I tried to follow a > job that goes to a CREAM-CE. Are those jobs supposed to showup in the > list of jobs listed with conder_q? No. On a WMS the jobs for CREAM are handled by ICE, while jobs sent to LCG-CE or ARC-CE instances are handled by Condor-G: https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/EGEE/EGEEgLiteJobSubmissionSchema To see ICE details one can use /opt/glite/bin/queryDb on the WMS. The "-h" option shows how.