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 On the consent issue, my understanding is that within our scheme
consent is rarely refused - echoing Tim's sentiments.

It is not dealt with simply as a 'form to be signed' but is a natural
part of the service discussion with the First Point of Contact. The
FPOC's are fully trained in dealing with the issues and on that basis
the human barriers are quite easily overcome in our experience. 


Phillip Bradshaw

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Sent: 28 July 2010 12:07
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Subject: Re: [data-protection] Justification of sharing info between
Health & Children's Centres

Hi everyone,

THank you very much for the responses. I was aware of the justifications
under the CHildren Act 1989 and the Local Government Act - however I'd
got so fixated on the DP issues I'd managed to forget that!

It certainly does raise a number of issues around multi-agency working,
and the barriers and facilitators to it. Ironically enough this was the
subject of my dissertation for MA Library and Information Management in
2008, which has recently been published in ASLIB proceedings. If you're
interested see here:
http://www.emeraldinsight.com/journals.htm?issn=0001-253x&volume=62&issu
e=1&articleid=1833124&show=pdf&PHPSESSID=fr3hiimso1vk045lvaqji4orf3

Just as a point of note, we are putting together a protocol for these
instances of sharing information, and there is and will continue to be
negotiation between the Council and the PCT (for as long as the PCT
exists).

For those suggesting consent and signposting - there is already some
signposting activity but it is felt that a large number of new families
do not then engage with the Children's Centres. In particular there is a
fear that those most in need of these services may not feel able to
proactively engage. The Children's Centres (and the health visitors who
work with them) want to ensure that services are discussed with every
parent, to encourage them to attend (brokering and accompanying on first
visits if necessary). For the same reason consent is not favoured, as it
is felt parents may disengage before they fully understand what's
available. (In addition there is nowhere to record this consent -
although this is a more minor issue which can be explored on a number of
databases).

I think we will go to the PCT with our enablers and see what happens...

Thank you very much to everyone once again.

Best wishes,

Michelle Peel

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