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Hi Rob

Thanks for sharing your observations.

Please could those at Brunel and Sheffield in particular take note of  
the SACK/DSACK settings at their sites and experiment with these  
changes too? We can request additional tests when you are ready.

Many thanks,
Jeremy



On 30 Jun 2010, at 12:25, Rob Fay wrote:

>> I'd be interested if applying this sort of tuning to worker nodes  
>> will have any effect at the other sites that are having transfer  
>> problems - Brunel, Liverpool, Sheffield and Bristol.
>
> We tried it at Liverpool last Thursday, and sure enough, the quality  
> of the transfers went into the dark green.
>
> However, I can't quite see how the optimisations would explain that  
> particularly given the seeming correlation with NAT. Why would NAT  
> cause problems just because the transfers are taking longer?  
> Wouldn't larger transfers, or increased contention, also cause  
> problems if that was the case?
>
> So looking at the changes, aside from the changes to buffer sizes,  
> there are two TCP options turned off, timestamps and selective  
> acknowledgements (along with duplicate selective acknowledgements).
>
> I tried turning timestamps back on, that made no difference,  
> transfers stayed green.
>
> I then tried turning SACK and DSACK back on and we saw a drop in  
> quality over the next few hours down into the 30-40% orange/yellow  
> range. Disabling SACK and DSACK saw the quality go back to 100%.
>
> I then restored all settings to defaults apart from SACK and DSACK  
> being disabled, and all transfers since then have been 100%.  
> However, there haven't been that many transfers since then, so I  
> don't think I can really say with certainty that SACK/DSACK are the  
> issue, but the evidence so far would appear to indicate that may be  
> the case, at Liverpool at least.
>
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