I would go for some form of life measure - not only income.  What is someone's background, opportunities, health and disability issues etc  What are the trends?

Are we becoming a more co-operative or alienated world?
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On Jun 07, 2010, at 04:26 PM, Tony Greenfield <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I am sorry for the diversion.
 
wittering has no aitch or even haitch in it.
 
Tony
 
 
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Instead of whittering on about meaning of median, shall we try to help the poor sod who finds himself reclining on a bed of nails.
 
In his Telegraph article, he pleaded for help: 
 
" provide an index that helps voters concentrate on how successful we are in improving the chances of poorer children".
 
Can you do that, taking into the index all the factors he mentioned, plus a minimum allowed low end of income and an aim to reduce the total  range of all incomes from ?
 
He has presented a problem that is much more worthy of your combined intellects than the meaning of one word,
 
Cheers
 
Tony
 
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Subject: Re: A new approach to the median

> The same mistake was reported many years ago in RSS News and Notes which
> quoted an extract from Hanzard, November 1991, where three MPS debated
> this issue.  I pinched it for teaching purposes and you can read it on
>
> http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~mb55/msc/clinbio/week1/summex.pdf
>
> Martin
>
> John Bibby wrote:
>> Humph said something similar on 'Today' (not today). I think what they
>> may mean is "As incomes in general rise, the median rises".
>>
>> The  LibCon policy-direction seems to be away from relative poverty
>> (x% of average) back to some absolute measure. Does this take us back
>> to Rowntree, or even further?
>>
>> JOHN BIBBY
>>
>>
>> On 7 June 2010 10:45, Paul Spicker <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Following correspondence on the Social Policy Jiscmail list, I've
>>     just been looking at a statement by Frank Field in the Daily
>>     Telegraph, where he says this:
>>     
>>     "Any candidate sitting GCSE maths should be able to explain that
>>     raising everybody above a set percentage of median income is
>>     rather like asking a cat to catch its own tail. As families are
>>     raised above the target level of income, the median point itself
>>     rises."
>>     
>>     http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/7803983/Poverty-is-about-much-more-than-money.html
>>     
>>     As Groucho Marx once said, "Any two year old can understand this.
>>     Fetch me a two year old."
>>     
>>     Paul Spicker
>>     
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