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Ah, well, there's a lot one could say to that (& a PhD thesis did, here in Canada, where Phyllis Webb's 'anti-ghazals' have become ever more influential). Rhyme is part of the classical ghazal; and some english ones, although i havent been overwhelmed by the few ive seen. the english language form, especially in North America is short (10 lines, 5 couplets usually), loves the jumps between couplets, &, in Canada, has a number of proponents, though John Thompson & Phyllis Webb are both its first major poets & still among the best if not the best. I wrote about them in an essay in my _Lyric/Anti-lyric_. Also, given the play with line length possible, the Canadian form of the ghazal, anyway (& I suspect a lot of the US ones), are certainly somewhat 'free' (& yet working with some interesting constraints).... Doug On 23-Jun-10, at 4:42 PM, Uche Ogbuji wrote: > I strongly agree that rhyme and form are not synonymous. But I will > point > out that rhyme is a component of classical ghazal, and that many > people > recognize no other sort aa a ghazal. > > Also, the refrain characteristic of even a highly idiosyncratic > ghazal means > it's rarely something I'd call free verse. > > --Uche Douglas Barbour [log in to unmask] http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ Latest books: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 Wednesdays' http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html because I want to die writing Haiku or, better, long lines, clean and syllabic as knotted bamboo. Yes! Phyllis Webb