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I havent had time to reread Lawrence, but my sense of them in memory was that you were hearing a lot of different personal & public discourses & re-presenting them; here I sense a greater 'looking at' others around 'you' (whoever's speaking...? If that makes any sense.... Doug On 4-Jun-10, at 9:31 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote: >> The see more than hear as I felt the earlier ones did? > > comment? > > L > > > Lawrence Upton > AHRC Creative Research Fellow > Dept of Music > Goldsmiths, University of London > Douglas Barbour [log in to unmask] http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ Latest books: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 Wednesdays' http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html because I want to die writing Haiku or, better, long lines, clean and syllabic as knotted bamboo. Yes! Phyllis Webb