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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:28 AM,  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I was using ccp4-6.0.2. I was using the following scripts:

>   sigmaa HKLIN test.mtz HKLOUT test-sigmaa.mtz << eof
>   title tt
>   labin  FP=FP SIGFP=SIGFP FC=FP_atm PHIC=PHIC
>   labout  DELFWT=DELFWT FWT=FWT WCMB=WCMB
>   symmetry P1211
>   END
> eof

I get the same results, i.e. some FOMs (about 6%) have gone negative,
and about 75% are exactly zero, whether I use the 6.0.2 version or the
current one.  This message in the output is pertinent:

Correlation between E**2's is non-positive -- SIGMAA set to 0.05

Also this table (final iteration of optimization of sigma-A) is telling:

 Iteration Number 10 on SIGMAA
                          OLD                     NEW       MEAN
      D Limits     SIGMAA     Shift    SIGMAA       W
  39.89 -- 8.74   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    8.74 -- 6.25  -0.59308  -0.00638  -0.59946  -0.45201
    6.25 -- 5.13   0.66855   0.00000   0.66855   0.54835
    5.13 -- 4.45  -0.61159  -0.00813  -0.61972  -0.49740
    4.45 -- 3.99   0.71063   0.00000   0.71063   0.58634
    3.99 -- 3.64   0.55934   0.00000   0.55934   0.43656
    3.64 -- 3.37   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    3.37 -- 3.16   0.42551   0.00000   0.42551   0.32230
    3.16 -- 2.98   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.98 -- 2.83   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.83 -- 2.69   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.69 -- 2.58   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.58 -- 2.48   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.48 -- 2.39   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.39 -- 2.31   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.31 -- 2.24   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.24 -- 2.17   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.17 -- 2.11   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.11 -- 2.05   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
    2.05 -- 2.00   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000

 Refinement of SIGMAA has not converged -- using current values
 Overall MEAN W is    0.05260

 DATA for SIGMAA PLOT

  STHOL**2  LN(SIGMAA)
  0.008000   -0.402640
  0.014211   -0.341601
  0.017326   -0.580991
  0.023544   -0.854478

 ln(SigmaA) vs sthol**2 should give straight line with
    slope = -26.3189*(mean square coordinate error) and intercept =
0.5*ln(sigmap/sigman).

> Is that possible that the negative FOM is due to the large discrepancy
> between FP and FC? Thanks for your kindly help!

Yes I think that's it: the Fo/Fc agreement is essentially random at
high resolution, so the sigma-A plot data only goes up to ~ 6.5 Ang
and is meaningless, i.e. this is a case of the method being
inappropriate rather than a program bug.  Perhaps others who have
experience of using this program in this situation can comment, my
experience is only cases where agreement is good.

Cheers

-- Ian