Dear All, Thank you for your help! There do have something needed to be checked carefully, as you suggested. Peter Zwart showed me the right way of explore_symmetry_metric, which indicated there is some relationship between the two unit cells. I hope it can explain the strange wilsonB and failure of MR. I will try to reprocess the data later to make sure. Best wishes Yang On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Eleanor Dodson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The easy Q first: > Wilson plot B values are very unreliable for 4A data - b=20 is almost > certainly wrong, but until you have a model to refine it is hard to get a > proper estimate. > > Q2: With a decent model the ligand should show up as a blob, even at this > resolution. You might have trouble fitting it, but at least you would know > whether it had bound or not. > > Q3: Why the MR doesnt work - I cant answer this.. > Check the data for any serious problems - missing strong intensities can > mislead. Is the spce group certain? > > Is there any relationship between the P212121 and F222 cells? > > Eleanor > > > w it ang li wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> We are now trying to soak some ligands into a protein, which is about >> 60kd in size and the structure has been solved >> before. But the molecular replacement cannot give a right solution. Below >> is some contrast of the data: >> >> Native 2A P212121 monomer >> Soaked 4A F222 monomer (more than 70% solvent) or dimer(more >> possible) >> >> I wonder if it is possible to find the ligand in the case of such low >> resolution, provided the ligand is not so small. What facts >> could probably lead to the failure of MR? Molrep gave a model of monomer >> but >> the rfree is as high as 0.7, while phaser could >> get no result. I tried phenix.explore_metric_symmetry to find the two >> spacegroups are not compatible, and the Rmerge of the >> data seems reasonable. >> One more question is: the wilson B of the data is lower than 20 from ccp4. >> Is it common for a 4A data? Since I donnot have >> the experience of handling this low resolution data yet. >> By the way, any suggestions about refinement methods in low resolution >> will >> be appreciated! >> >> Best wishes >> Yang >> >> >