'faffing'?
Brighter?
John Herbert Cunningham
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From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Robin Hamilton
Sent: May-01-10 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: Adventurous rejected: Magma Blog
Thanks Alison -- that distinctly clears things.
So OK, the primary current meaning of "jump cut" in cinematography terms is
what might be called The Godard Effect.
I can live with that (though I hate to admit that Jeffrey was in this case
right and I was wrong).
I still think this still leaves some (lots of) issues unresolved, but at
least and at last you've given me a *solid answer to part of what was
niggling my brain. So thanks again.
{I have to say, I don't *like what you've just said, and obviously I'll have
to confirm it (I wouldn't even trust my grandmother, without a dated
citation, if she told me how to suck eggs), but it exactly addresses the
questions I was asking in the way Jeffrey's faffing around the issue didn't.
I hate to be sexist, but maybe it's simply the case that women are on the
whole brighter than men. <g>}
Robin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alison Croggon" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: Adventurous rejected: Magma Blog
> Just to be clear Robin - I asked a couple of film directors, who might
> be called practitioners, and someone else who is a film geek, and they
> all "privileged" that precise definition. It's a technical term that
> is precise as the dolly zoom effect (google Hitchcock) and refers to a
> particular film effect. Jeffrey in this instance is perfectly correct,
> if practical usage of the term is any guide, and I have some sympathy
> with his asking that the term be used accurately.
>
> Narrative discontinuity is quite a different thing. Cutting to create
> other kinds of discontinuity - or the kinds of eye-burning
> cut-every-two-seconds editing that Baz Luhrman did in Moulin Rouge -
> is also something else. That Winter's Tale example has absolutely
> nothing to do with jump cuts, and absolutely everything to do with
> Shakespeare vamping up the dramatic static: the effect is to convey
> the Clown's agitation. Yes, a modern technique, employing a degree of
> psychological realism, but using jump cutting to describe it is just
> misleading, or at best illuminates nothing about what that speech is
> doing.
>
> xA
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Robin Hamilton
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> It's not even, as far as I can make out, and regardless of what Jeffrey
>> was
>> taught, even the predominant meaning of the term in practical
>> cinematography
>> ("film studies" might be a separate issue).
>>
>
>> Robin
>
>
>
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