Hi Ian, thanks for very detailed reply! >> - do you think it is better than looking at three values {map CC, 2mFo-DFc, >> mFo-DFc} and why? >> > > Yes, because all the information you need is encapsulated in 1 number > per region of interest! I agree it's a good reason. > But I don't understand what you mean by > 2mFo-DFc & mFo-DFc being counted each as 1 number. Given the map and model, you can get the map value at (x,y,z) position, for example, at the center of atom. This is what phenix.model_vs_data reports. For each atom you get three numbers: map CC, and the values of 2mFo-DFc and mFo-DFc maps at the atomic position. >> By suggesting to use {map CC, 2mFo-DFc, mFo-DFc} I was assuming that: >> - map CC will tell you about similarities of shapes and it will not tell you >> about how strong the density is, indeed. So, using map CC alone is clearly >> insufficient. Also, we more or less have feeling about the values, which is >> helpful. >> - 2mFo-DFc will tell you about the strength of the density. I mean, if you >> get 2.5sigma at the center of atom A - it's good (provided that map CC is >> good), and if it is 0.3sigma you should get puzzled. >> - Having excess of +/- mFo-DFc density will tell you something too. >> > > The problem is how is all this information quantified in an objective > and statistically justifiable way in order to arrive at a firm > conclusion? > We can more or less relate these values to the map appearance and model-to-map fit quality. Looking at these numbers one can approximately tell whether it's good, so so, or bad. It's like crystallographic reciprocal space R-factor. If I see R=35% for a structure at 2A resolution - it's not good, and R=17% is much better. Anyway I will code that formula and play with it. Thanks again! Pavel.