Dear Philipp, What about Proton Beam Therapy? That is rapidly on its way to becoming the next white elephant in the treatment options for early prostate cancer. And these treatment options are all a fallout of the original PSA test. There are already seven such hugely expensive centres in the USA and now UK oncologists have also decided that they too want atleast one such unit in the UK. Each UK centre will cost about 140 million pounds to set up, with annual revenue costs for NHS commissioners expected to be a further 50-100 million pounds to treat 1500 cases annually. No one has bothered to do any sums as to where all this money will come from, in the light of the NHS entering into a frozen financial tundra very soon. We recently did a rapid review of the evidence around proton beam therapy and were appalled at the lack of any robust evidence around treatment of oncological conditions with proton beam therapy. This again ties in with Ben's email about policy makers and guideline developers ignoring systematic reviews and meta-analysis. I'm cutting and pasting a summary of our rapid evidence review here, for you and others to have a read: Evidence of Clinical Effectiveness 1. Very recently, in September 2009, AHRQ (the US Government Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality published an evidence brief on proton beam therapy. It categorically states: It is very likely that, as this technology becomes increasingly available, it will also be increasingly used with much broader indications. This anticipated diffusion of the technology can have important implications (economic, regarding prioritization of resources, and potentially on health outcomes). Especially for many common cancers, such as breast, prostate, lung, and pancreatic cancers, it is essential that the theorized advantages of particle beam therapy vs. contemporary alternative interventions are proven in controlled clinical trials, along with concomitant economic evaluations. View Executive Summary as PDF Particle Beam Radiation Therapies for Cancer Final Technical Brief Final Research Review (PDF) Final Appendices (PDF) The AHRQ summary brief for policy makers clearly states: Particle beam radiation therapy(PBRT) is an alternative to other types of radiation therapies for treating cancer. This summary reviews the different types of PBRT, their potential advantages and disadvantages, and their current uses. At present, there is very limited evidence comparing the safety and effectiveness of PBRT with other types of radiation therapies for people with cancer. Therefore, it is not possible to draw conclusions about the comparative safety and effectiveness of PBRT at this time. Policymaker Summary Guide 2. In 2008, the Singapore HTA Programme reviewed proton therapy: http://www.singhealth.com.sg/NR/rdonlyres/1E7AAD9E-9E50-4C18-8A81-ECF143D1EA8F/10291/PBT.pdf The findings of the report were: While Proton Beam Therapy (PBT) appears to be promising, the technology has not been fully tested, as comparative studies are few 3. In 2007, a systematic review of the clinical effectiveness for proton therapy by Olsen et al for the Norwegian Knowledge Centre for Health Services concluded that 'The evidence on clinical efficacy of proton therapy relies to a large extent on non-controlled studies, and thus is associated with low level of evidence according to standard heath technology assessment and evidence based medicine criteria': http://www.dsko.org/files/ParticleNorskanalyse.pdf 4. In 2007, a systematic review of the clinical and cost effectiveness of hadron therapy in cancer by Lodge et al concluded that ‘no firm conclusions about clinical or cost-effectiveness of proton therapy or of C-ions could be drawn’: https://espace.cern.ch/partnersite/Bibliography%20on%20Hadron%20Therapy/History%20and%20Literature%20Reviews%20on%20HT/LODGE-A%20systematic%20Literature%20review%20of%20the%20clinical%20and%20cost-effectiveness%20of%20hadron%20therapy%20in%20cancer.pdf 5. The 2007 issue of the Australian and New Zealand Horizon Scanning Network (ANZHSN) Bulletin on the topic states: However, it is unclear if proton beam therapy for uveal melanoma results in a substantial improvement of eye preservation rates and the ocular complications observed post-treatment are of concern. Further studies are required to address the flaws of previous studies and to compare proton beam therapy to existing techniques. AND In conclusion, the evidence for proton beam therapy in neoplasms involving, or adjacent to, cranial structures remains inconclusive. Further studies are required to determine if proton therapy is indeed substantially better compared to conventional radiotherapy, as inferred by numerous treatment planning studies. http://www.health.gov.au/internet/horizon/publishing.nsf/Content/FCA3C530CC5EDC91CA257244007B32CD/$File/FINAL%20ANZHSN%20Bulletin,%20Issue%203.pdf (Pages 3 and 4 of pdf copy). The full horizon scanning reports can be accessed online at: Proton beam therapy for the treatment of neoplasms involving cranial structures (May 2007) (PDF 971 KB) Proton beam therapy for the treatment of uveal melanoma (May 2007) (PDF 740 KB) 6. A 2007 Review article ‘Proton Therapy in Clinical Practice: Current Clinical Evidence’ by Brada et al makes similar observations to those made by the other systematic reviews: http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/full/25/8/965?ijkey=264b01950bd3c41d0125e9e48905b8a317797cd1&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha 7. Brada et al, writing in the Journal Of Oncology in 2008, make the following assertion: The consumer representatives have been influenced by informationthat mostly originates from proponents of protons with frequentcommercial interest in the new equipment. Such reports are subjectto understandable bias and conflict of interest with few qualmsabout overstating the available evidence. The current spateof systematic reviews tries to redress the balance. In the lightof the overall agreement of lack of existing clinical evidencefor benefit of protons, to demand that at least some of theclaims are substantiated does not seem too much to ask. Randomizedcontrolled trials in the absence of level 2 evidence at thisstage may be excessive, and outcome from well designed prospectivephase II studies, away from commercial influence and focusingprincipally on toxicity end points, would be a good start. Eventhe Institute of Medicine, part of the US National Academicof Science, is in favor of knowing what works (www.iom.edu). Finally, regarding cost—yes, Morgan can travel acrossthe oceans in a new rocket-propelled plane, and yes, do notask us to pay for it. If the plane actually gets him to theland destination faster, we may pay. http://jco.ascopubs.org/cgi/content/full/26/15/2592-a Evidence of Cost Effectiveness 1. Maastricht; 2008(The Netherlands) PMID 18707784-- "Cost-effectiveness of particle therapy: Current evidence and future needs." (Pijls-Johannesma M, Radiother Oncol. 2008 Nov;89(2):127-34. Epub 2008 Aug 15.) * Literature review of cost and cost-effectiveness of proton therapy * Outcome: Literature scarce, non-comparable, and not performed according to standard health technology assessment criteria * Conclusion: Model-based economic evaluations may help gain evidence-based insight into cost-effectiveness 2. Fox Chase; 2007 PMID 17704408 -- "Is proton beam therapy cost effective in the treatment of adenocarcinoma of the prostate?" (Konski A, J Clin Oncol. 2007 Aug 20;25(24):3603-8.) * Markov model. Cost-effectiveness evaluation of 91.8 CGE proton beam vs. 81 CGE photon IMRT, using cost, bNED, utility data * 15 year model: 70 year old: cost of protons $63,500 vs. IMRT $36,800; 60 year old: protons $65,000 vs. photons $39,400. Incremental cost/QALY 70-year old $63,6000 and 60-year old $55,700 * Conclusion: Assuming 10 Gy additional dose-escalation, proton beam not cost-effective for most patients * Editorial (PMID 17704400): PT legitimate form of EBRT for prostate cancer, but if dose escalation cannot be achieved over existing therapies, economic utility relies on clear and meaningful difference in quality of life. This area should be investigated urgently 3. Yale; 2007PMID 17500444-- "Point/counterpoint. Proton therapy is too expensive for the minimal potential improvements in outcome claimed." (Schulz RJ, Med Phys. 2007 Apr;34(4):1135-8.) 4. Lundkvist J, Ekman M, Ericsson SR, Jonsson B, Glimelius B.Cost-effectiveness of proton radiation in the treatment of childhood medulloblastoma. Cancer 2005; 103: 793–801 This is the only health economic article that claims that proton beam therapy is cost-effective, and the only economic basis on which NCG wants to commission proton-beam therapy, but the economic analysis is flawed The analysis looks at four cancers - and the ICERs are very different, (see below). This means that the cost effectiveness is highly dependent upon casemix. It looks like there is absolutely no cost-effectiveness for medulloblastoma and head-neck cancer. However, it is nowhere near cost effective for breast cancer and probably not cost effective for prostate cancer. The other problem with this analysis - the sensitivity analysis is very simplistic. Given the title of the paper is 'Proton therapy of cancer: Potential clinical advantages and cost-effectiveness' one would have expected quite detailed consideration of the uncertainty in this analysis. It simply isn't there. The models maximise the potential benefit by extrapolating benefits assuming a life expectancy of 100 years.This is probably not defensible, unless this is the life expectancy in Sweden.The costs are rather old (2002) and updated using the consumer price index rather than the relevant health price index.One is not sure what difference this would make, but its not good practice.The cost of a proton facility is low compared to the figures quotes for the UK - 62.5 million euros.The life expectancy for the facility is set at 30 yearsrather than the normal 25. Both of these push down the expected cost per case of the facility. The assumptions are generally very generous nature and serious questions need to be asked as to whether this paper would be accepted in a UK decision-making setting. Breast cancer Average breast cancer patient 66 608 High risk population (assuming double risk of cardiac disease) 34 290 High proton radiation cost estimate** 94 282 Low proton radiation cost estimate *** 60 757 Prostate cancer Standard case results 26 776 High proton radiation cost estimate** 35 304 Low proton radiation cost estimate *** 24 727 Head-Neck cancer Standard case results 3811 High proton radiation cost estimate** 6305 Low proton radiation cost estimate *** 3225 Medulloblastoma Standard case results Dominates High proton radiation cost estimate Dominates Low proton radiation cost estimate Dominates Regards, Ash Dr Ash Paul Medical Director NHS Bedfordshire 21 Kimbolton Road Bedford MK40 2AW Tel no: 01234795705 Email: [log in to unmask] ________________________________ From: "Dahm, Philipp" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sun, 4 April, 2010 15:55:12 Subject: Re: Do you know good examples where guidelines ignore evidence? Dear Paul: The American Cancer Society recently released a position paper on PCA screening; they are a lot more reserved than the AUA (also a position paper that updates a recent "Best Practice Policy Statement") The there is of course recent guidance of the USPTF that explicitly recommends against PCA screening in the elderly. Another maybe even better example that relate to prostate cancer relates to the use of total androgen ablation (TAB; i.e. combination of orchiectomy/LHRH analog or antagonist + an anti-androgen) for metastatic prostate cancer. There are multiple SRs that suggest that any benefit of adding an anti-androgen adds at best a marginal benefit with regards to overall and disease specific survival. Nevertheless, guidelines such as those by ASCO state that it should be "considered". The Chinese guidelines do not provide explicit recommendations for anything, but actually appear to encourage the routine use. I wonder has anybody done a systematic study looking at how methodological rigor of guidelines is associated with recommendations that appears to contradict existing evidence? In know there is NIH R0-1 funded grant project ongoing by one of the GRADE members looking at recommendations and COI of guideline panelists. Ph* Philipp Dahm, MD, MHSc, FACS Associate Professor of Urology, Associate Residency Program Director & Director of Clinical Research Department of Urology University of Florida College of Medicine, Health Science Center Box 100247, Room N2-15 Gainesville, FL 32610-0247 Phone: (352) 273-7936 Fax: (352) 273-7515 Email: [log in to unmask] Website: http://evidence-based.urology.ufl.edu This communication may contain information that is legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the sender immediately by telephone, or by return email and delete the message from their computer. -----Original Message----- From: Evidence based health (EBH) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Glasziou Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:48 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Do you know good examples where guidelines ignore evidence? Dear Lilya The NICE guidelines I found (CG58 - Prostate Cancer Diagnosis and Treatment) seems to skirt around the issue of PSA screening or case finding but starts at the decision to have a biopsy! "To help men decide whether to have a prostate biopsy, healthcare professionals should discuss with them their prostate specific antigen (PSA) level, digital rectal examination (DRE) findings (including an estimate of prostate size) and comorbidities, together with their risk factors (including increasing age and black African and black Caribbean ethnicity) and any history of a previous negative prostate biopsy. The serum PSA level alone should not automatically lead to a prostate biopsy." Is there another guideline on PSA? I also note this was February 2008 - and the 2 large RCTs of screening published in March 2009. Seems guideline writers have an uphill battle keeping long guidelines up to date! Thanks Paul Glasziou Liliya Bakiyeva wrote: > NICE guidelines on prostate disease - completely out of tune with the > evidence on PSA testing & monitoring. > NICE guidelines on ECT - only recommend it as a "last resort" > treatment and seemingly ignore all the evidence supporting ECT's > efficacy in severe/psychotic depression. Did I mention that these > guidelines were put together without any psychiatrists on board? > > On 3 April 2010 19:54, Fell Greg <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > CG96 - chron neuropathic pain > Section on pregabalin seems like it was written by Pfizer. Seems > to completely ignore the cochrane reviews - from which one might > infer that gabapentin is just about equally effecacious (oh and > much cheaper). > That recommendation will cost taxpayers at least £0.5m in our > district alone (500k people) - by directing to pregab when > gabapentin might do. Seems like a case of accepting 'a little bit > less health for an awful lot less brass' > > Why? > Long arm of pharma influence? > > Over emphasis on expert opinion (which can be biased or unbiased) > and under emphasis on evidence? > > Underemphasis on resource impact of recomentations. NICE is not > responsible for assessing and dealing with the opportunity cost of > its recomendations > > > > Greg Fell > 07957 144899 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Evidence based health (EBH) > <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > To: [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Sent: Sat Apr 03 17:00:38 2010 > Subject: Do you know good examples where guidelines ignore evidence? > > Dear All, > Do you have examples of guidelines that appear to ignore or contradict > evidence? For example, self-monitoring of blood glucose has been > recommended by many guidelines (including ADA and NICE guidelines in > 2008) despite weak evidence, and in 2007 the DiGEM trial[1] which > pretty > clearly showed no benefit (and perhaps some harm). We are particularly > interested examples that might help us understand *why* some > guidelines > appear to ignore evidence, but we'd also be interested in studies that > simply document the extent to which guidelines use best evidence, e.g, > Andy Oxman's 2007 review of WHO guidelines showing that "Systematic > reviews and concise summaries of findings are rarely used for > developing > recommendations." [2] > Many thanks > Paul Glasziou & Chris Del Mar > 1. Farmer A et al Impact of self monitoring of blood glucose in the > management of patients with non-insulin treated diabetes: open > parallel > group randomised trial. BMJ. 2007 Jul 21;335(7611):132. Epub 2007 > Jun 25. > (The ADA guidelines were "revised October 2007, published 2008 but do > not mention the July 2007 trial; the NICE guidelines mention DiGEM but > state it was not published at the time of writing). > 2. Oxman AD, Lavis JN, Fretheim A. Use of evidence in WHO > recommendations. Lancet. 2007 Jun 2;369(9576):1883-9.