If the phone rings and you pick it up and put it down before anyone says anything, how do you know it was a marketing call. In fact how do you know who it was at all ? Brenda Team Leader I.T. Pembrokeshire County Council County Hall Haverfordwest SA61 1TP _____ From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tim Trent Sent: 01 April 2010 14:23 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] When is a sales cold call not a sales cold call?[Scanned] The whole thing is farcical anyway, of course. There is no "evidence" in or from the phone call. "He tried to sell to me" "No I didn't" The spirit of the law is being ignored here by the UKIC if their interpretation is correct, and that cannot be right. On 1 Apr 2010, at 14:09, Roland Perry wrote: In message <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >, at 10:45:43 on Thu, 1 Apr 2010, Tim Trent <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > writes In response to your question, yes this call would fall outside of the Privacy and Electronic Communications Regulations 2003, because as explained previously, no actual marketing was transmitted before the call was terminated What if you trapped the caller by saying: "Yes, I'd like to buy, how much is it", and when they respond with a price, they are nicked! -- Roland Perry ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All archives of messages are stored permanently and are available to the world wide web community at large at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/data-protection.html> If you wish to leave this list please send the command leave data-protection to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> All user commands can be found at http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/help/commandref.htm> Any queries about sending or receiving messages please send to the list owner [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Full help Desk - please email [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> describing your needs To receive these emails in HTML format send the command: SET data-protection HTML to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> (all commands go to [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> not the list please) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _____ Tim Trent - Consultant Tel: +44 (0)7710 126618 web: ComplianceAndPrivacy.com <http://complianceandprivacy.com> - where busy executives go to find the news first personal blog: timtrent.blogspot.com/ <http://timtrent.blogspot.com/> - news, views, and opinions personal website: Tim's Personal Website <http://www.trent.karoo.net> - more than anyone needs to know <http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MarketingByPermission/~6/1> Marketing by Permission Important: This message is private and confidential. 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