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Hello psci com I feel as though, having lurked on this subject I must contribute, having jumped the fence (if one exists) from the engagement to education part of science recently (British Science Association to Association for Science Education for those who don't know me) Firstly, should engagement folks really want to know what goes on in school science they could do no better than get involved with ASE - we have many members from the informal learning world and we value their input to our discussions. Secondly, we, like you, are concerned about practical work in school science. We're engaged with partners on the "Getting Practical" project which encourages meaningful practical work in schools. We also publish a number of books cncerned with safety in school science - always from the point of view of what can be done rather than what can't. A basic misunderstanding of risk assessment is often the barrier to doing exciting (and sometimes mucky)stuff and we can help with that. Finally, all this will become much clearer when our new website is up and running. I will let psci com know when that is - it'll be summer this year. Best wishes to all Annette Annette Smith Chief Executive Association for Science Education -----Original Message----- From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Russell Sent: 23 March 2010 12:43 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Science GCSE - a student's view [Scanned] 'Many people who talk about the discovery method of teaching are really talking about arranging a lesson or an experiment so that students discover what they are supposed to discover. That is not an exploration. The whole tradition of exploration is being lost for entire generations.' Frank Oppenheimer 1912-1985 Promoting public engagement with science through a contagious delight in phenomena * [log in to unmask] * http://www.interactives.co.uk * Give people facts and you feed their minds for an hour. Awaken curiosity and they feed their own minds for a lifetime. * Ian Russell (Twitter: ianrusselluk) ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to mailto:[log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail -- [include hyphens] 2. To resume email from the list, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: set psci-com mail -- [include hyphens] 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com -- [include hyphens] 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science and society can be found at http://psci-com.ac.uk 6. To contact the Psci-com list owner, please send an email to mailto:[log in to unmask] ********************************************************************** +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Promoting Excellence in Science Teaching and Learning The Association for Science Education College Lane, Hatfield, Hertfordshire AL10 9AA Tel: (01707) 283000 Fax: (01707) 266532 Website: www.ase.org.uk Email: [log in to unmask] This e-mail is confidential and is intended for the exclusive attention of the addressee(s) indicated. Any options or advice are not necessarily those of the company/organisation from which the e-mail was sent. If you are not the intended recipient, this e-mail should not be read or disclosed to any other person/parties. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your computer systems. Although this e-mail has been checked for viruses and other defects, no responsibility can be accepted for loss or damage arising from its receipt or use. ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to mailto:[log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail -- [include hyphens] 2. To resume email from the list, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: set psci-com mail -- [include hyphens] 3. To leave psci-com, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the message: leave psci-com -- [include hyphens] 4. Further information about the psci-com discussion list, including list archive, can be found at the list web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/psci-com.html 5. The psci-com gateway to internet resources on science communication and science and society can be found at http://psci-com.ac.uk 6. To contact the Psci-com list owner, please send an email to mailto:[log in to unmask] **********************************************************************