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Hang Douglas we are not citizens here in the ole Albion we are
subjects!!(subjected to poetry hahaha)
Says Patrick waking up from doze

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From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Douglas Barbour
Sent: 16 March 2010 16:00
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Subject: Re: 25 questions: question # 2...

Well, our provincial government likes 'stakeholders' (aargh!).   
'citizen' is a dangerous term; it actually suggests the people are  
there to be paid attention to, & 'we' cant have that!

I have never felt like a 'consumer' of art....

Doug
On 15-Mar-10, at 4:22 PM, Max Richards wrote:

> - well said, David.
>
> I had the same experience attending my once in a lifetime, I hope,  
> focus group.
> The local municipality wanted to find out about its constituents.
> We were referred to as consumers.
> Ratepayers is even a more honest term.
> I suggested citizens might be a decent name for us.
> But I think the word was felt to be antique.
>
> Max
>
> Quoting David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Please people, whatever atrocities you want to commit, but can you  
>> please
>> not refer to 'consumers' or 'the consumer' of poetry. I know you  
>> can't help
>> it, coming from a totalitarian capitalist hell-hole like the USA,  
>> but there
>> are limits.
>>
>> It is an offence against taste, not merely ideology.
>>
>>
>> --
>> David Bircumshaw
>> "A window./Big enough to hold screams/
>> You say are poems" - DMeltzer
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