That's a good way of putting it, Dave. I've just been participating in a discussion on Facebook, where I was agreeing more or less with Roger Day about the importance of the Pound-Williams line, as opposed to Eliot, especially the elder Eliot, yet the person who started the discussion was more interested in a different tradition (& the discussion had problems in defining what it was each individual was looking for: Roger & I were interested in what we could learn, as writers, from the poets we admired so, others were simply interested in what they read for a complex pleasure, which we also sought). So, back to Sheila's & your points, etc.... I mean, I then went & got my Collected Olson & enjoyed n afternoon rereading some of the great poems that continue to men so much to me... (many would go elsewhere). Doug On 13-Mar-10, at 3:48 AM, David Bircumshaw wrote: > I think the 'answer' as far there is one is that there's a constant > unconscious dialogue between what we have read and what is new to us > and > this is prior to the magisterial essay-moment of judgement. It's > comparable > to how relationship networks form: a constant threading of like and > dislike, > attraction and aversion, as well as the facts of necessity. Douglas Barbour [log in to unmask] http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/ Latest books: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy) http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664 Wednesdays' http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com/2008/03/new-from-aboveground-press_10.html The secret which got lost neither hides nor reveals itself, it shows forth tokens. Charles Olson