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Please people, whatever atrocities you want to commit, but can you please not refer to 'consumers' or 'the consumer' of poetry. I know you can't help it, coming from a totalitarian capitalist hell-hole like the USA, but there are limits. It is an offence against taste, not merely ideology. -- David Bircumshaw "A window./Big enough to hold screams/ You say are poems" - DMeltzer Website and A Chide's Alphabet http://www.staplednapkin.org.uk The Animal Subsides http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/