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Interesting. Do we not have a duty to inform them what their rights are by informing them of the contents of the policy? I always have. Frank From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carr Barnes Sent: 02 March 2010 20:51 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] DSE eye tests I agree with them! Tie the employee up in process or make it look as if the process meets the needs and maybe the employee will never know to "ask" for the eye test! And ultimately such a false economy. On 2 March 2010 17:34, Karen Coomer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Thought you might be interested in Unison's view on this one! See attached. Regards Karen _____ From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Huguenel, Tracy Sent: 02 March 2010 15:44 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] DSE eye tests hi, yes, that seems to be thier rationale, I have advised them to tone down the wording of thier policy. thank you for the feedback Tracy Tracy Huguenel, RGN, SCPHN (OH) Deputy Head of Occupational Health 0845 155 3111 Ext 3982 / 3591 Fax 01268 534127 _____ From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carr Barnes Sent: 02 March 2010 15:37 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] DSE eye tests hi As far as I know they can make the employee follow what ever processes they want prior to the eyetest such as vision screening etc before hand as long as it is laid down in their policy before ultimately agreeing to the eyetest. They can though argue that process was not followed and refuse payment if the employee bypasses the process. A lot of business see OH vision screening as "cost effective" for some reason .. where they got that idea I have no clue. might be worth outlining the cost so they can compare it against the cost of employee self-referral to a optician On 2 March 2010 14:40, Huguenel, Tracy <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Here we go again! Having a small discussion with one of our contracts, as they have kindly revamped their policy advising all DSE users that they must attend OH for a preliminary eye screen or they will not be reimbursed for their opticians eye tests and cost of any glasses required, without input from OH. Seems to me this in breach of Reg 5, I am going mad? Employee are not obliged to have an eye test under the DSE regs, but the employer is obliged to pay for eye test if the employee does want one. The eye and eyesight test must be carried out by someone with an opthamic qualification, the employer can offer as an 'extra' vision screening - a basis eye screen carried out by a nurse with a basic understanding of the eye. Our company are telling their employee they will not be refunded if they do not have the vision screen first, is this legal? Many thanks, Tracy Huguenel, RGN, SCPHN (OH) Deputy Head of Occupational Health F Block Nurses Campus Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust Nethermayne Basildon SS16 5NP 0845 155 3111 Ext 3982 / 3591 Fax 01268 534127 =========================================================================== This email has been processed by the Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust email gateway. Any executable files or known viruses have been removed. If this message has been sent to you in error please securely discard the email, notify the sender and do not open any attachments or act on the contents. This email may be subject to the Data Protection Act 1998, the Freedom of Information Act 2000 and other relevant acts and regulations. Unless the contents are clinically confidential or otherwise exempt they may be subject to disclosure. We do not accept or send emails larger than 10MB. For more information contact the IT Department, Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust on +44 1268 82 19 19 =========================================================================== ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. OCC-HEALTH ARCHIVES: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/occ-health.html CONFERENCES AND STUDY DAYS: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/filearea.cgi?LMGT1=OCC-HEALTH OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH NURSING EDUCATION http://www.aohne.org.uk