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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture It was the custom in most places in France, anyway, for the founder of an anniversary to arrange for special food and drink to be offered to the clerics who participated in the service (these are the pitancia). The idea was that they would pray more fervently if they were well fed. In some cases, the founder actually describes the menu, which could be quite elaborate. Best, Megan Christopher Crockett wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > From: Tom Izbicki <[log in to unmask]> > > >> Are we dealing here with Pitances? >> > > you mean figuratively (i.e., small, insignificant amounts)? > > > i wouldn't say so. > > the initial rent mentioned in Udo's charter > > http://ariadne.org/cc/abbeys/st-peter/CSP391-2.htm > > is 35s. on the vineyard, to be supplemented, if necessary, by 14s. from > Udo’s worldly brother, taken from the market of Chartres, and an additional > 10s. (if needed) on the port of Conflans. > > these are not insubstantial sums, in c. 1150. > > many gifts to the chapter for simple anniversary masses recorded in the > necrology are smaller --20s. or so. > > but, if you mean "pitances" in some canonical sense, you should axe someone > else, cause i'm no scholard in the law. > > c > > >> Christopher Crockett wrote: >> >>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture >>> >>> here is the earliest example of an anniversary foundation that i know of >>> > from > >>> the Chartrain, a charter of Abbot Udo of St. Peter's of Chartres, done >>> > shortly > >>> before 1150: >>> >>> http://ariadne.org/cc/abbeys/st-peter/CSP391-2.htm >>> >>> property (appropriately enough, "rent" [in kind?] on a vineyard) from >>> > Udo's > >>> family property given "...per annos singulos sollempniter celebretur >>> anniversarium....ut semper in die anniversarii nostri splendida refectio >>> paretur fratribus..." >>> >>> based on this example (and a few others, though none quite so specific) i >>> > have > >>> always assumed that an "anniversary" notice in a necrology referred to >>> something more than a simple mass by the chapter or members of the house. >>> >>> c >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> Received: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:21:49 AM EDT >>> From: Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [M-R] anniversarium panis et vini >>> >>> >>> >>>> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and >>>> > culture > >>>> From: Aaron Hope <[log in to unmask]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I am working on a capitular foundation agreement from the 1460s that >>>>> >>>>> >>>> established a yearly anniversary for a donor's soul. The document >>>> > states > >>>> >>>> >>> that >>> >>> >>>> the dean and chapter of the cathedral promised “librare seu librari >>>> >>>> >>> facere >>> >>> >>>> in eorum celtario panem et vinum inter presentes, ut in aliis >>>> > anniversariis > >>>> panis et vini in eadem ecclesia fundatis est fieri solitum”. My >>>> > question > >>>> is: what is meant by the phrase 'anniversary of bread and wine'? Is >>>> > this > >>>> >>>> >>> just >>> >>> >>>> another way of describing the mass, >>>> >>>> >>>> no, not to my best understanding of the term/institution (and i would >>>> appreciate being corrected if i'm wrong here). >>>> >>>> we have these "anniversary" foundations in the Chartrain region from the >>>> >>>> >>> 12th >>> >>> >>>> c., becoming more common in the 13th and later (cf. the multiplicity of >>>> >>>> >>> them >>> >>> >>>> recorded in the Chartres cathedral necrologies, available on >>>> http://www.gallica.bnf.fr ). >>>> >>>> >>>> in my understanding it's a matter of a sum of money (or property) being >>>> bequeathed to the cathedral chapter (in this case) in return for an >>>> > annual > >>>> celebration of the death of the deceased. >>>> >>>> though this most likely did include an anniversary mass, because these >>>> "anniversary" entries (rather than the more common simple "obit. X" >>>> >>>> >>> notices) >>> >>> >>>> seem to have involved more expense, i have always assumed (and it's just >>>> > an > >>>> assumption on my part) that they also implied an anniversary meal of >>>> > some > >>>> sort. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> or would they distribute unconsecrated bread and wine (as one would >>>>> > assume > >>>>> >>>>> >>>> from the location mentioned, the 'celtarium', which I understand to be a >>>> storeroom or cellar)? >>>> >>>> yet another reason to see this as more than the foundation of a simple >>>> anniversary mass. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> If the latter, was this a common practice? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> definitely. >>>> >>>> at least in the Chartrain. >>>> >>>> at least in the late 12th-13th + cc. >>>> >>>> c >>>> >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >>>> to: [log in to unmask] >>>> To send a message to the list, address it to: >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >>>> to: [log in to unmask] >>>> In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> For further information, visit our web site: >>>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ********************************************************************** >>> To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >>> to: [log in to unmask] >>> To send a message to the list, address it to: >>> [log in to unmask] >>> To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >>> to: [log in to unmask] >>> In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >>> [log in to unmask] >>> For further information, visit our web site: >>> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html >>> >>> >> ********************************************************************** >> To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME >> to: [log in to unmask] >> To send a message to the list, address it to: >> [log in to unmask] >> To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion >> to: [log in to unmask] >> In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >> [log in to unmask] >> For further information, visit our web site: >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html >> >> > > >> --------------------------------------------- >> Attachment: tizbicki.vcf >> MIME Type: text/x-vcard >> --------------------------------------------- >> > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > -- ÐÏࡱá ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html