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Hello
All,
I’m a little
concerned about this. We do projects with schools where we visit the same
school on a weekly basis for up to half a term. According to everything I’ve
read, that equates to a ‘frequent’ visit and therefore we would need to
register, but it is not very clear. Anyone give me guidance on whether
that would mean we have to register?!?
If we need to
register, it is something we need to start looking into.
Thanks!
Shona
Carnall
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Officer
Sir
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From: Richard Ellam
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Sent: 30 March 2010 12:37
Subject: Re: MLA Safeguarding Guidance
Bulletin - ISA Vetting & Barring Scheme
HI Lilli and all
I recently raised this question with the Orwellian
sounding Vetting and Barring Agency, and copies of both my query and the VBA
response follow:
Dear Richard
Thank you
for your recent email.
I can confirm that for individuals who go
into different schools or similar settings to work with different groups of
children should not be required to register with the ISA unless their contact
with same group of children is frequent or intensive.
"Frequent" - one
occasion per week or more on an ongoing basis
"Intensive" - on four or more
occasions in any 30 day period.
Full details regarding 'visits to
different settings' can be found on page 14 of a document called 'Drawing the
line'
the web link is below for your convenience.
http://publications.everychildmatters.gov.uk/eOrderingDownload/DCSF-01122-2009.pdf
If
you would like to be kept up to date in the future on the Vetting and Barring
scheme, please reply to this email with your preferred contact
details.
Kind regards,
Sarah Fenton
The Vetting & Barring
Scheme Information Team
-----Original
Message-----
From: Richard Ellam [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:25 AM
To:
Cc:
Subject: Do I need to
register with the ISA?
Hi
I am a freelance writer and presenter of
Science Shows. I am self-
employed.
My work, for which I am paid,
involves me visiting schools, museums
and science centres to present
live performances to audiences of
children and adults.
Although
I may spend up to about 100 days a year in schools, I
generally only
visit any particular school for one or at the most two
days, and the
contact that I have with any given class of children is
normally
limited to them sitting in an audience in front of me for up
to about 1
hour. In some shows I get members of the audience up to
help with
experiments. Children are always accompanied in my shows by
their class
teachers and other members of school staff.
I also occasionally perform
at science festivals and similar events,
where I may be engaged for 3-4
days, to perform shows for visiting
schools. Again I will see any
given class of children for only about
1 hour during this 3-4 day
process, and the classes are always
accompanied by teachers and other
adult helpers.
So the question is, given that Authors who visit schools
to give
readings will not be required to register with the ISA, and the
work
that I do has basically similar levels of contact with children
to
that of visiting authors, do I need to register with the
ISA?
Please support your answer with full argument and reference to
the
appropriate regulations and
legislation.
Yours
Richard
Ellam.
It seems therefore that if you don't work with
the same children more than once a week, on a regular basis , or on more than
four days in any one month, that you won't have to register with the ISA or go
through the nonsense of CRB checks. These changes to the regulations came
into force in January this year after the public condemnation of the previous
absurdly stringent rules when they were announced before
Xmas.
However, just to prove that the State really is run by
fools, OFSTED is now making a big fuss about 'safeguarding' and so some schools
are behaving in a totally paranoid way over the whole business of Vetting, and
more or less refusing to allow anyone without a CRB check onto their premises,
despite there being no statutory basis for any such
requirement.
Its worth noting that the Government cannot produce a
shred of evidence that the exsiting CRB check system is more effective as a
means of combatting child abuse than its predecessor, and will not be able to
show that the money spent (wasted?) on the new scheme will make it any more
effective than the existing one - they don't bother to collect relevant
data!
If, as I do, you feel strongly that the whole business
of 'child protection' and vetting has got completely out of hand then an
organisation called the Manifesto Club has been running a campaign against this
form of 21 century witch hunt for some years. To find out more see www.manifestoclub.com/hubs/vetting.
Hope this helps
Cheers
Richard
Richard Ellam
L M
Interactive
Science Shows and Hands-On
Stuff
tel/fax 01761 412
797
www.lminteractive.co.uk
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On 29 Mar 2010, at 20:40, lilli sort
wrote:
Richard
Ellam
L M
Interactive
Science Shows and
Hands-On Stuff
tel/fax 01761 412
797
www.lminteractive.co.uk
Thanks for this.
However, I can't imagine that
everyone is simply in favour of this new scheme and would like to
know if anyone is involved in getting it rectified or stopped?
I know there
has been general opposition to it from within literature and music and
personally know of several artists, now often working on educational projects,
who will stop doing this if regisring on the datebase becomes a
requirement.
I'd like to hear
some views on this from within the sector - also if you know of any museum led
opposition groups working to get the scheme stopped (I know the government
already has been forced to re-think) but have no specific point for finding what
the sector is thinking.
Thanks all,
Lilli
From: Jan
Kofi-Tsekpo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, 29 March, 2010
18:39:11
Subject: MLA Safeguarding Guidance Bulletin -
ISA Vetting & Barring Scheme
With apologies for
cross-posting.
MLA
Safeguarding Guidance Bulletin - ISA Vetting & Barring
Scheme
Please see the following link to the
MLA Safeguarding Guidance Bulletin about safeguarding and child protection, with
key information about the Independent Safeguarding Authority’s new Vetting &
Barring Scheme.http://www.mla.gov.uk/what/policy_development/learning/~/media/Files/pdf/2010/programmes/MLA_safeguarding_bulletin_03-10
The bulletin includes Frequently
Asked Questions drawn up by Artswork during their delivery of 10 safeguarding
seminars across
This is the first of three
six-monthly bulletins to be issued by the MLA as a supplement to our current MLA
NSPCC Safeguarding Guidance document.
Further information about the new
scheme can be found on the ISA website: http://www.isa-gov.org.uk/ or by ringing 0300 123 1111.
Jan
Kofi-Tsekpo
Strategic Commissioning
Project Manager - National CPD / 14-19 /
Museums Libraries &
Archives Council
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