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Hello All, I'm a little concerned about this. We do projects with schools where we visit the same school on a weekly basis for up to half a term. According to everything I've read, that equates to a 'frequent' visit and therefore we would need to register, but it is not very clear. Anyone give me guidance on whether that would mean we have to register?!? If we need to register, it is something we need to start looking into. Thanks! Shona Carnall Education Officer Hartlepool Cultural Services Sir William Gray House Clarence Road TS24 8BT Email. [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Phone: 01429 284348 Find us on Twitter: YuffyMOH ________________________________ From: Richard Ellam [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 30 March 2010 12:37 Subject: Re: MLA Safeguarding Guidance Bulletin - ISA Vetting & Barring Scheme HI Lilli and all I recently raised this question with the Orwellian sounding Vetting and Barring Agency, and copies of both my query and the VBA response follow: Dear Richard Thank you for your recent email. I can confirm that for individuals who go into different schools or similar settings to work with different groups of children should not be required to register with the ISA unless their contact with same group of children is frequent or intensive. "Frequent" - one occasion per week or more on an ongoing basis "Intensive" - on four or more occasions in any 30 day period. Full details regarding 'visits to different settings' can be found on page 14 of a document called 'Drawing the line' the web link is below for your convenience. http://publications.everychildmatters.gov.uk/eOrderingDownload/DCSF-01122-2009.pdf If you would like to be kept up to date in the future on the Vetting and Barring scheme, please reply to this email with your preferred contact details. Kind regards, Sarah Fenton The Vetting & Barring Scheme Information Team -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ellam [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:25 AM To: Cc: Subject: Do I need to register with the ISA? Hi I am a freelance writer and presenter of Science Shows. I am self- employed. My work, for which I am paid, involves me visiting schools, museums and science centres to present live performances to audiences of children and adults. Although I may spend up to about 100 days a year in schools, I generally only visit any particular school for one or at the most two days, and the contact that I have with any given class of children is normally limited to them sitting in an audience in front of me for up to about 1 hour. In some shows I get members of the audience up to help with experiments. Children are always accompanied in my shows by their class teachers and other members of school staff. I also occasionally perform at science festivals and similar events, where I may be engaged for 3-4 days, to perform shows for visiting schools. Again I will see any given class of children for only about 1 hour during this 3-4 day process, and the classes are always accompanied by teachers and other adult helpers. So the question is, given that Authors who visit schools to give readings will not be required to register with the ISA, and the work that I do has basically similar levels of contact with children to that of visiting authors, do I need to register with the ISA? Please support your answer with full argument and reference to the appropriate regulations and legislation. Yours Richard Ellam. It seems therefore that if you don't work with the same children more than once a week, on a regular basis , or on more than four days in any one month, that you won't have to register with the ISA or go through the nonsense of CRB checks. These changes to the regulations came into force in January this year after the public condemnation of the previous absurdly stringent rules when they were announced before Xmas. However, just to prove that the State really is run by fools, OFSTED is now making a big fuss about 'safeguarding' and so some schools are behaving in a totally paranoid way over the whole business of Vetting, and more or less refusing to allow anyone without a CRB check onto their premises, despite there being no statutory basis for any such requirement. Its worth noting that the Government cannot produce a shred of evidence that the exsiting CRB check system is more effective as a means of combatting child abuse than its predecessor, and will not be able to show that the money spent (wasted?) on the new scheme will make it any more effective than the existing one - they don't bother to collect relevant data! If, as I do, you feel strongly that the whole business of 'child protection' and vetting has got completely out of hand then an organisation called the Manifesto Club has been running a campaign against this form of 21 century witch hunt for some years. To find out more see www.manifestoclub.com/hubs/vetting<http://www.manifestoclub.com/hubs/vetting>. Hope this helps Cheers Richard Richard Ellam L M Interactive Science Shows and Hands-On Stuff tel/fax 01761 412 797 www.lminteractive.co.uk [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> On 29 Mar 2010, at 20:40, lilli sort wrote: Richard Ellam L M Interactive Science Shows and Hands-On Stuff tel/fax 01761 412 797 www.lminteractive.co.uk [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Thanks for this. However, I can't imagine that everyone is simply in favour of this new scheme and would like to know if anyone is involved in getting it rectified or stopped? I know there has been general opposition to it from within literature and music and personally know of several artists, now often working on educational projects, who will stop doing this if regisring on the datebase becomes a requirement. I'd like to hear some views on this from within the sector - also if you know of any museum led opposition groups working to get the scheme stopped (I know the government already has been forced to re-think) but have no specific point for finding what the sector is thinking. Thanks all, Lilli ________________________________ From: Jan Kofi-Tsekpo <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Mon, 29 March, 2010 18:39:11 Subject: MLA Safeguarding Guidance Bulletin - ISA Vetting & Barring Scheme With apologies for cross-posting. MLA Safeguarding Guidance Bulletin - ISA Vetting & Barring Scheme Please see the following link to the MLA Safeguarding Guidance Bulletin about safeguarding and child protection, with key information about the Independent Safeguarding Authority's new Vetting & Barring Scheme.http://www.mla.gov.uk/what/policy_development/learning/~/media/Files/pdf/2010/programmes/MLA_safeguarding_bulletin_03-10<http://www.mla.gov.uk/what/policy_development/learning/%7E/media/Files/pdf/2010/programmes/MLA_safeguarding_bulletin_03-10> The bulletin includes Frequently Asked Questions drawn up by Artswork during their delivery of 10 safeguarding seminars across England , and also complements the recent advice surgeries run by the NSPCC; both run on behalf of the MLA's Strategic Commissioning Continuing Professional Development programme. http://www.mla.gov.uk/what/programmes/commissioning/CPD This is the first of three six-monthly bulletins to be issued by the MLA as a supplement to our current MLA NSPCC Safeguarding Guidance document. http://www.mla.gov.uk/what/policy_development/learning/~/media/Files/pdf/2008/Safeguarding_v5_Updated_2<http://www.mla.gov.uk/what/policy_development/learning/%7E/media/Files/pdf/2008/Safeguarding_v5_Updated_2> Further information about the new scheme can be found on the ISA website: http://www.isa-gov.org.uk/ or by ringing 0300 123 1111. 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