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Dear Steve, Dear All, I got the approval for the use of space (classroom etc.) and the secretary general has been very helpful and I am sure we can handle some related costs York is a good alternative for academic collaboration I need to know how many streams will be attending and how long the program will take in order to solve the overlapping schedule with the other conference. I can share a list of hotels for accommodation but we have to hurry since European Cultural Capital events and end of summer mood may make later arrangement impossible. The cafeteria and 4 other restaurants and Starbucks!! :) will be open at that time on the campus. Since the material is copied to Essex I have to be sure that enabling this conference under the facilities and academic program of Istanbul Bilgi University may not cause any ethical or legal problem. We are trying to solve the problem but I really don't want anyone to be blamed because of my suggestion hosting the conference, since there is no contract. I appreciate your understanding on IP issues since we all produce intangible assets. Best, Gokce -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:18 PM To: Gokce Dervisoglu Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Arts of (sustainable) Management recovery, recycling, reprise, rejuvenation, return, Dear Gokce CONFERENCE TITLE As no previous body has registered the name The Art of Management and Organization you can, as per my previous email use that title. INSTITUTIONAL PARTNERS If you need international institutional partners to enable your rector to agree, I am sure that as Head of the OTB group I can persuade The York Management School to lend its name to the project as long as the commitment is not financial. York is a world top 100 university (UK top 10) and a presitigious partner from a University point of view, although our management school is still relatively small. We would lend some assurances that the conference was indeed academic and has a credible scholarly program.I can provide a letterhead. REFEREED PAPERS If anyone has a problem with funding because only abstracts were refereed, SCOS devised a solution to that some years ago. We have a refereed stream as a stream in the conference, and submitters needing to do so identify with thier normal submission that they want to be considered as part of this and they submit a full paper as well as an abstract. Reviews are done, no problem. If anyone has a need for a full paper to be reviewed in order to get funding to to the conference, one contribution that York could make is to organise this (virtual) stream - send your paper, indicate which stream it has been accepted for, and we will get it fully blind reviewed quickly. If this can be agreed we can act swiftly. CONFERENCE STRUCTURE The conference stream convenors organised the reviewing and acceptance process which is complete. Documents were COPIED to Essex - the originals are with the stream convenors. SO the stream convenors can be given permission to communicate acceptance/rejection to their streams (copy to Ralph, Gokce and myself perhaps) and instructions on how to register and pay (and what fee to pay). This will make life administratively easier. PAYMENTS etc If you can operate with no room hire or equipment hire (projectors etc), if you think it's reasonable to ask people to arrange their own lunches on campus and pay for their own dinners (why not?), book and pay for their own accommodation, it's just the cost of materials and administration of the programme - which is more time than cost - and there may be no need to pay a deposit (which is usually for accommodation or dinner venue). Whatever I would NOT use PayPal again after painful experience in the past. They don't really understand conferences and it is a struggle to get you money out of them until AFTER the conference has been held, and they are not cheap. Best Steve L On Mar 24 2010, Gokce Dervisoglu wrote: >Dear All, > > I have started to organize the event with Essex group after Banff and I > felt very disappointed because of the developments for not being able to > host one of the most inspiring conferences (Salute Pierre I really > enjoyed being in Gattieres) I have ever been. I am very sure they tried > to do their best to save the effort of years. > > I did not cancel the reservations for the classrooms and dancing halls, I > am in negotiation with our Rector's Office if we can provide at least the > space anyhow. > > For the official part, since Jane is not any more active I cannot offer > support services but we have organized a list of various hotels and > hostels then. And there is enough catering opportunities at the campus. > > If both Ceri and Ian agree we can use the name of "Art of management" for > confirmation letters sent from our MBA Director, (for the ones who need a > confirmation letter for their institutional support alternatives) if > there is a problem we can give another name to the workshop series. > > Please bare with me another day so that I can clear if I receive support > from the Rector although we don't have international institutional > partners. > >Cheers, > >Gokce > > > > > >Gokce Dervisoglu, PhD > >Assistant Professor > >camma.bilgi.edu.tr > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Aesthetics, Creativity, and > Organisations Research Network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of David Weir Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 9:36 AM To: > [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Arts of (sustainable) Management > recovery, recycling, reprise, rejuvenation, return, > > > >Hi; > > I agree with Steve. To be honest I fear coming under the umbrella of any > of the existing Academy structures. The pressures to conform, have > committees, make reports will become irresistible. > > The thing about Art of Organisation is that its Outside for Outsiders. > > Lets do what we can about Istanbul...but it doesn't have to be in > Istanbul, it could be in Liverpool, or Angmassalik or Scunthorpe... > >all best > >David > > > >----- Start Original Message ----- > >Sent: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:48:36 +0000 > >From: [log in to unmask] > >To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: Arts of (sustainable) Management recovery, recycling, > reprise, rejuvenation, return, > > > >> my previous mail should of course have read PDW not pdf! > >> > >> To pick up on echoes of previous mails, when we started the AMO >> conferences > >> they were aimed at a broad community, and very deliberately >> non-aligned. It > >> wasn't ever aligned with AACORN, but it became very important to >> AACORNERS > >> after the end of Academy Arts. We wanted to create a space which, though > >> primarily academic, was for doing academics DIFFERENTLY, where > >> practitioners could also practice without feeling the need to > >> intellectualise and abstract their work beyond the point where it felt > >> appropriate. And when we said Academic, we didn't mean business and > >> management academics only, and we didn't get just business and management > >> academics turning up. We were indulgent of inspired eccentricity whilst > >> encouraging of creative rigour, and ecstatic when the two came together. > >> > >> These things we didn't find in any of the academies, European or >> otherwise. > >> We had found them to a degree in SCOS, but SCOS purposes are different. > >> Academies are gifted and compulsive when it comes to killing creativity > >> behind a banner of supposed "quality". Whilst if AACORNERS want to meet >> and > >> discuss Art and Management and Organization in Montreal they have every > >> right to do so, and Paul is to be thanked for generously offering that > >> opportunity, I wouldn't want that to be thought of as the Art of >> Management > >> and Organization Conference. I'd rather there be a discreet pause, a > >> considered regrouping, and a graceful return in a suitably understated > >> blaze of glory into the uncoopted space we have carved out for everyone. > >> > >> Steve L. > >> > >> On Mar 23 2010, creativepathways wrote: > >> > >> >Dear All > >> > > >> > I am not an academic but attended the Banff conference,my first ever. I > >> > found myself in the wonderful company of "like minds and souls"and was > >> > very stimulated by the conference. So much so that in the last two >> > years > >> > questions that I have mulled over for twenty, start to find direction. > >> > The sense of participating,being part of this community, was much more > >> > than just stimulating or inspiring for me personally. > >> > > >> >Working without institutional backing I can only offer than my heartfelt > >> >encouragement and thanks to this community many of you whom I now know > >> >albeit if only through your conversations and papers. > >> > > >> > I feel the openness of this community to be its glue and its non > >> > judgmental aspirations its guiding star.As a practitioner I would be > >> > deeply saddened to feel this welcome opening into a unique world of > >> > enquiry could close in any way. I wish to encourage those that can, to > >> > carry the same spirit of AACORN through this crisis, which will be rich > >> > in new opportunities, and thank you all for your serendipitous part >> > in my > >> > own journey. > >> > > >> >warm regards > >> >David Kayrouz > >> > > >> > > > >----- End Original Message ----- >